Attrition..

**Xtiaan72** · 05-26-2009, 14:16

Any chance of an attrition script being possible for armies caught in the open in winter months or armies campaigning in territories with plague. Perhaps the attrition could be more dramatic if your general doesn't have a doctor type ancillary and your supplies are running low?

**MarcusAureliusAntoninus** · 05-26-2009, 20:57

I don't think there is a way to script the removal of small portions of units. I remember an attempt to simulate loss of troops to weather, desertion, etc on the RTW engine but it just couldn't be done quite right. The best option was to script a plague and that didn't even work.

**Zarax** · 05-26-2009, 21:05

The sad thing is that attrition was half implemented in the RTW engine but it's impossible to make it work properly as it's completely random...

**Xurr** · 05-27-2009, 00:22

Originally Posted by Zarax

The sad thing is that attrition was half implemented in the RTW engine but it's impossible to make it work properly as it's completely random...

Is that the town rioting thing where your troops all lose a man or 2 when a town riots?

**Ibrahim** · 05-27-2009, 01:38

Originally Posted by Xurr

Is that the town rioting thing where your troops all lose a man or 2 when a town riots?

not necessarily. when marching and campaigning is what they want.

**Owen Glyndwr** · 05-27-2009, 04:58

I believe the semblances of attrition are handled thorugh the belt tightening stuff. Since they couldn't show desertion and starvation, however, they simply had it decrease the army's loyalty...something like that. Also movement points drop considerably during winter. Other than that, I'm not sure what else can be done...

**george585** · 05-26-2009, 21:23

Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus

I don't think there is a way to script the removal of small portions of units. I remember an attempt to simulate loss of troops to weather, desertion, etc on the RTW engine but it just couldn't be done quite right. The best option was to script a plague and that didn't even work.

I am by no means an expert, but using console commands it is possible AFAIK to remove units from the army and then add them again with different number of troops. It's a technical trick (instead of dicreasing the number of troops in a unit, you are simply removing the unit itself, and then adding it back but with fewer troops). I suppose it would be possible to retain all the experience and armor upgrades by checking the original unit's stats, and then applying them to the new unit. Wouldn't this approach work?

**Atilius** · 05-26-2009, 22:54

Originally Posted by george585

I am by no means an expert, but using console commands it is possible AFAIK to remove units from the army and then add them again with different number of troops...Wouldn't this approach work?

Absolutely not.