Re: Attrition..
The light and fast-moving warband types typically got off pretty well just by carrying their snacks, and pillaging the countryside for the rest, AFAIK...
Logistical arrangements are more an issue of *strategic* stamina; that is, how long the army can be kept assembled in the field before it starts getting hungry, of course assuming it can't plain "live off the land" ("a polite euphemism for some very rude activities", as one historian drily noted).
"Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."
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Re: Attrition..
I should quit reading Sun TzuOriginally Posted by Watchman
he did not write it for games...
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History is written by the victor." Winston Churchill
Re: Attrition..
Well he *was* writing in a very different military context...
"Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."
-Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
Re: Attrition..
If you know yourself, and your enemy you will be victorious in each battles you fought,
If you know yourself, but not your enemy you will gain one victory after one defeat,
If you do not know your enemy even yourself, you are destined to lose every battle...
a bad translation but It has a huge relevance methinks,
on the other hand;
Je ne veux pas tuer le thème plus/I do not want to kill the topic any more...
Last edited by Atraphoenix; 06-01-2009 at 21:30.
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My AAR/Guides How to assault cities with Horse Archers? RISE OF ARSACIDS! (A Pahlava AAR) - finishedSpoiler Alert, click show to read:
History is written by the victor." Winston Churchill
Re: Attrition..
Some of his axioms are more universally applicable than others; it's not like the ones involving chariots or fire as a weapon were all that relevant these days, for example...
"Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."
-Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
Re: Attrition..
agree with you...
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Re: Attrition..
Just speculatin so without prejudice:
A supply wagon does affect battle morale in a negative way: if it is sacked your army gets worried where its next meal will come from. IIRC Alexander's army worried when the wagons went at Gaugemela etc.
A supply wagon means your army can travel faster and further (doesn't disperse to rape and pillage).
In some basic ways supply wagons have a strategic effect similar to generals: if they die in battle the army gets a morale hit and so on.
Maybe there should be a recruitable general with a slow non-combatant wagon bodyguard for civilised factions? With healing, speed and other boosting ancillaries. Then individual units could be represented by limited recruitment or mercenary "Eagle" units.
It would need to be modded heavily to avoid looking ludcrous: imagine a pop-up announcing your faction leader (a 50-year-old 12 oxen dray) has sired a new offspring (a two-wheel cart) or has acquired the trait "ungreased wheel" (-10% movement).
Other modded features might be a cash boost if you slay an enemy "train" in battle, which would give purpose to HA skirmishers raiding civilised armies on the steppes (chuckwagon huntin').
I guess it would be a huge dislocation of the system to take such a central and interesting element as the personalised leadership figures out of the game and replace them with such a prosaic (if accurate) feature.
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