Can you play past 14AD?

[zarasophist]

Or does the game just end?

[Ghaust the Moor]

Yeah, I was wondering that too.

[Aemilius Paulus]

I believe you can. I have seen people playing at 26 AD (EB, but the poor bloke never activated the script, so his turns were twice shorter) , and when you reload games right after a new turn begins, you will be "magically" teleported to 14 AD due to a bug. It is possible to continue after it. I have tried it.

[Celtic_Punk]

my celt campaign on vanilla BI, i've gone waaaaaaaay past the date. i was in the area of something like 490 AD 500 when i discovered EB

[Aemilius Paulus]

my celt campaign on vanilla BI, i've gone waaaaaaaay past the date. i was in the area of something like 490 AD 500 when i discovered EB

No surprise there. That is BI. The OP was inquiring about EB.

[Mulceber]

I'm pretty sure you can - 14AD is just the date by which you have to have fulfilled all your faction's objectives. -M

[Owen Glyndwr]

I have found that most of the TW games work like that (I carried my first M2TW game on into the 16/1700s. Of course by then I was just trying to get every city with everything built in it, just for kicks. But I did it anyways!)

Not sure about mods though. Why don't you give it a whirl and let us know what happens!

[Cute Wolf]

in EB? 14 AD? once... my very first campaign in EB... goes beyond 24 AD... played in 4 months...

[Ignopotens]

I believe you can, but the historical updates end there.

Also, I'd be seriously impressed if someone actually did make it that far without achieving his objectives or getting eliminated.

[Goth47]

I am not sure if you can continue a game that ends on a certain date as i have never got that far but You can alter the line( end_date 14 summer) in the file descr_strat to whatever date you want but you have to do it before you start a campaign.

Goth

[Celtic_Punk]

I believe you can, but the historical updates end there.

Also, I'd be seriously impressed if someone actually did make it that far without achieving his objectives or getting eliminated.

I could do that. Just make it harder by following a few house rules. Not fighting a war or campaigning without a solid reason, ect. and using H-VH campaign difficulty.

[anubis88]

Well the historical uptadates end much sooner. Before 200BC even

[Aemilius Paulus]

Well the historical uptadates end much sooner. Before 200BC even

Yeah, I believe they end right before the Second Punic War begins. Just when they get to the good stuff... Given the percentage of writing about Romans in an average update, it is quite regrettable, although, true Roman fans already know just about everything about the Second Punic War that can fir in those messages.

Vanilla RTW and then EB is what encouraged me to switch from post 1400 CE history to antiquity. Now I read copious amounts of books about Romans and surrounding civilizations during that period. I do not see why other people might not be similarly inspired.

[Fluvius Camillus]

Just conquer Auwjogotanoz (modern Gotland) with a faction, Keep the public order enough, disband all that you dont need, turn off fog of war.

Keep clicking end turn and watch how the rest of the world fights, and eventually you will see for yourself!

~Fluvius

[Smeel]

You do realize it takes 1144 turns to get there?

[Ghaust the Moor]

Not if script is off

[Tyrfingr]

Just conquer Auwjogotanoz (modern Gotland) with a faction, Keep the public order enough, disband all that you dont need, turn off fog of war.

Keep clicking end turn and watch how the rest of the world fights, and eventually you will see for yourself!

~Fluvius

Or, you could conquer Britain with the Casse....

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

If the script is off, almost all of the AI factions will go broke and not be a challenge in the slightest.

The game ends in AD14. You can extend the date by altering descr_strat texts. However, the script will end in AD14. You will go back to two turns per year at that time etc.

[Cute Wolf]

Not present a challange? Oh, I remember, they still sent some of their minions...

[Celtic_Punk]

Yeah, I believe they end right before the Second Punic War begins. Just when they get to the good stuff... Given the percentage of writing about Romans in an average update, it is quite regrettable, although, true Roman fans already know just about everything about the Second Punic War that can fir in those messages.

Vanilla RTW and then EB is what encouraged me to switch from post 1400 CE history to antiquity. Now I read copious amounts of books about Romans and surrounding civilizations during that period. I do not see why other people might not be similarly inspired.

they killed my people's golden age and soiled on our memory. labeling us as barbarians and said we didnt wash. even though we invented soap. and most of their weapons and armour.(MAIL!) as a rule... I hate the romans. I've read a bunch about them and to be honest alot of their history bores me, especially the imperial years. an Empire's stagnation is kind of... uninspiring... to say the least. I lose even more interest once Christianity comes into the game. By that whole point you know for a fact you are never going to know what was really happening, so why bother reading it at all? Though the tales of much longer ago are exaggerated and some things may be made up entirely (Josephus?) it's alot more romantic and interesting. Something you can read at night and fall into a dream about. Try doing that reading about Constantine... I'd have a stroke from being extremely bored before I daydream about bringing Christianity to the empire.

the successor wars are very interesting (though I don't know much about them, or own a book about it) and the Greek's golden age is quite interesting as well. I wish my ancestors had the gusto to write things down and I could know lots of things about them... oh well I guess i just have to hope that one day they find the writings of some enlightened Greek or a Celt who learnt to write and had an interest in recording things.

[DaciaJC]

Though the tales of much longer ago are exaggerated and some things may be made up entirely (Josephus?) it's alot more romantic and interesting. Something you can read at night and fall into a dream about. Try doing that reading about Constantine... I'd have a stroke from being extremely bored before I daydream about bringing Christianity to the empire.

So... where's your proof/sources/something more concrete than mere emotions?

[Aemilius Paulus]

To tell you the truth, CP, I am not much of a fan of the Principate either. I do not know why, but it is the Early Republic that interests me the most. Mostly, I suppose, the sense of a struggle for life or death, as opposed to the omnipotent behemoth of an empire. Even Dominate I prefer to Principate as the former involves desperate struggles with barbarian incursions.

[Mulceber]

For me it's pretty much everything up through the Julio-Claudian Dynasty. I like the early Republic for the reasons Aemilius Paulus mentioned, I like the late Republic due to the massive infighting and naked struggle for power amongst the dynasts and I find the Julio-Claudian Dynasty interesting because of the court intrigue that Graves represented so nicely in "I, Claudius." Once we get past there my interest diminishes a bit, and when the dominate comes into being I start to lose interest, especially with the rise of Christianity. A bit depressing for my tastes. -M

[miotas]

To tell you the truth, CP, I am not much of a fan of the Principate either. I do not know why, but it is the Early Republic that interests me the most. Mostly, I suppose, the sense of a struggle for life or death, as opposed to the omnipotent behemoth of an empire. Even Dominate I prefer to Principate as the former involves desperate struggles with barbarian incursions.

Everyone loves an underdog.

[Celtic_Punk]

So... where's your proof/sources/something more concrete than mere emotions?

how can you prove anything that happened so long ago? i wasn't there. You weren't there. but judging from what we know, and the fact that different sources on the same subject differ constantly, we can assume this. Someone is lying. It is a known fact that history is written by the victor. Don't ask me for sources on something when i really didn't say anything specific, or said something that is generally known. You think everything Homer wrote about Troy was fact? or everything Herodotus said about Persia was all truth? some of it yes... most of it? maybe. All of it? I'm willing to bet not. Can anyone prove that? No. Some historians like to put spin on things, and make their opinion appear to be fact. How can you be so sure something someone wrote thousands of years ago is pure fact and how it actually happened? Vietnam was the first war to be fought without censorship of the free press. What kind of censorship did the News have in ancient Rome? You should have been asking yourself these questions before questioning my post. Infact, when you reply to most of the things I post on this forum, you should ask yourself those sort of questions. All Empires are forged on the skulls of the righteous(not religiously, but righteous in the fact that they fought a defencive war to save their sovereignty.) Those Empires will do anything to keep their people thinking the opposite of that one truth. Propaganda is a powerful tool used by the rich to keep the poor in check.


EDIT: I just re-re-read my post... Everyhting is opinion or general knowledge. And who here doesn't think Josephus wrote his history of the uprising biased for the Romans? If you don't you are a flippin eejit. and should be lined up and shot, lest you be allowed to procreate, and spread your stupidity further.

[the man with no name]

they killed my people's golden age and soiled on our memory. labeling us as barbarians and said we didnt wash. even though we invented soap. and most of their weapons and armour.(MAIL!) as a rule... I hate the romans. I've read a bunch about them and to be honest alot of their history bores me, especially the imperial years. an Empire's stagnation is kind of... uninspiring... to say the least. I lose even more interest once Christianity comes into the game. By that whole point you know for a fact you are never going to know what was really happening, so why bother reading it at all? Though the tales of much longer ago are exaggerated and some things may be made up entirely (Josephus?) it's alot more romantic and interesting. Something you can read at night and fall into a dream about. Try doing that reading about Constantine... I'd have a stroke from being extremely bored before I daydream about bringing Christianity to the empire.

the successor wars are very interesting (though I don't know much about them, or own a book about it) and the Greek's golden age is quite interesting as well. I wish my ancestors had the gusto to write things down and I could know lots of things about them... oh well I guess i just have to hope that one day they find the writings of some enlightened Greek or a Celt who learnt to write and had an interest in recording things.

Agreed