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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight of Heaven View Post
    Realy well historicaly , i was thinking a polybian will be 5 hastati 5 princepes, 2 velites, 2 equites and 3 triari and the rest alies and auxiliares, this will be a full legion , on post marian units in each legion will be 10 cohorts with 1cohorth inc. , and the rest is auxiliares , inc.aleie cav wel at leats is what i read in the books :P well i try folowing this formation
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=101787 did you check this link out? Basically you should just do what you think is the most fun, but historically that would be too many romans in the army. I find it to be more enjoyable playing with an army that is more historical.

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    well im saying that becouse how can you put one legion in chess formation (quintus) with only these cohorths, it doesnt make much sence, normaly what i read some time a go and saw on other forums was the core roman legion made by romans in chess formation and the alies on the flanks,alies army,infantary and cavalary. In post marian legion, 1 legion was compose by 10 cohorts, each,And each cohort had 500 to 900 plus man,maybe more sometimes of course the cohorts varius in type, evocata, veterani, praetorian, first cohort etc.As well Auxiliares wich number was arround thousands in the flanks. well in game you can put whatever you want truly :) whats more fun indeed, but game engine its diferent, maybe to represent that these formations were created.i belive its another way of putting things, to balance gameplay as for reaching more fun while playing the most historical possible. But that comes in manny forms, its important for each player have his on rules to achieve that. This guide show this i belive :P
    What im saying is i made my own rules, i like playing historical too, but to do that i dont have exactly folow these rules. :)
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    I'd recommend Konny's Allied Legions mod in the unofficial mods section. It allows you to recruit Bruttians, Ligurians etc in Italic settlements, in fact you can only recruit high end latin troops in Rome.
    Also give a nice description of Camillan/Polybian Consular Armies including the allied legions.
    One of the best add on mods for EB I feel and I've found very stable.
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    Camillan

    4 Hastati
    4 principes
    4 Triarii
    4 Accensi/ Leves
    3 Cavalry (any really)
    1 general

    My battle setup is traditional


    Polybian

    4 Hastati
    4 principes
    4 Triarii
    4 Velites
    3 Cavalry (any really)
    1 general

    My battle setup is traditional

    I have been known to replace the velites with archers when dealing with eastern factions. My primary goal is always to capture crete to secure the archers.

    Marian/Augustan

    10 Cohorts
    4 Cavalry (any, but generally auxilia of some sort)
    5 archers (generally i will use cretan archers, but from attrition I generally have to recruit locals to replace losses)
    1 General

    I have two battle setups

    C = Cohort
    A = Cavalry
    M = Archer

    A C - C - C - C - C A
    A C - C - C - C - C A
    M M M M M



    A C C C C C A
    A C C C C C A
    M M M M M

    Generally I employ the former when fighting eastern factions where I have to manuever around a phalanx. the latter I employ so as to provide easy reinforcements when fighting the "barbarian factions". I have found this setup most effective especially when defending. Fighting on hard I have been able to destroy 25% of an army before they hit my legionaries (before they throw there pila). Again generally I use cretan archers, which are quite superior to most others, the effectiveness of the setup goes down when useing other archers
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    There's already threads on Barbaropolis army compositions, try searching for them.

    Your formations are not bad in terms of gameplay, though I think the composition and formation are more of a Late Roman variety.




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    Quote Originally Posted by satalexton View Post
    There's already threads on Barbaropolis army compositions, try searching for them.
    I know, we get these every month . Just like the monthly LS threads of the good old days...

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    Checker board was a Marian invention wasn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by satalexton View Post
    There's already threads on Barbaropolis army compositions, try searching for them.

    Your formations are not bad in terms of gameplay, though I think the composition and formation are more of a Late Roman variety.
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    I am no fan of Sata, in fact he is on my ignore list, but he does not actually do anything wrong here except possibly calling Rome some silly byname... be fair.
    He is actually not for once screaming, "burn Barbaropolis!", merely saying what many others do to those recurring "once-a-month-questions" that the answer is around in abundance if one searches for it- especially in the AAR and gameplay guides section.

    Be fair, go for the ball, not the man. No need for personal persecution, Sata as well as others has a right to contribute usefully.

    When pointing a finger at others, how many is it that points at yourself? Who is attacking someone now? Were we not meant to stop and behave in a restrained way (though it evades me that we ever left it)?

    I will shut my gob now, for I am no angel myself. Just saying, give him a break when he actually behaves himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchhoplite View Post
    At it again?? Tell me, what have you learned this week??
    Well, I for one, agree with you. No matter how small a transgression is, it is a transgression. No Romaioiktonoi means no Romaioiktonoi, and not "no wasabi on Thursdays" or anything of that sort. You see, another thread is now derailed because of a single word.

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