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    Default AW: Re: Konion Hellenon......making them stronger

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Revan View Post
    Nope dude, I don't hate greeks, I am definitely not misellen. The only reason why I don't play as KH is that they have a weak cavalry & their general has hoplites which is historically correct. I prefer playing as macedon because cavalry are the core of my battle tactics. ........
    KH has Hippeis Xystophoroi.



    Of course, they are not as powerfull as Hetairoi, but they are faster, cheaper, still have a good charge (34) and are availabel in 22 provinces (that's a big AOR for such a good cavalry unit). Also you can recruit them from a level 3 MIC (Heitairoi need level 5 MIC).

    Macedonia has the great disatvantage, that it can recruit their elite cavalry (Hetairoi, Hippeis Thessalikoi) only in Pella and Demetrias. KH can recruit their Hippeis Xystophoroi in Bactra, in Alexandria, in Syrakousai, in Taras and so on.

    Hetairoi
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    AOR (Hetairoi), Makedonia can only recruit Hetairoi in Pellas and Demetrias, cause it needs a level I Government to bild a level 5 MIC.
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    Hippeis Xystophoroi
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    AOR (Hippeis Xystophoroi)
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    KH can recruit all native cavalry types apart from Hetairoi, that are available for Macedonia (such as Prodromoi, Hippeis Thessalikoi, Lonchophoroi Hippeis and Hetairoi Aspidophoroi). It also can recruit Hippeis Tarantinoi, an elite skirmisher cavalry, which is not available for Macedonia.


    KH Hippeis Tarantinoi use another skin.

    KH has one of the greatest cavalry roster of the Hellenic factions, but has no 'super' heavy cavalry, therefor a great AOR for their elite cavalry. Ceterum censeo Romam esse delendam.
    Last edited by Zett; 06-01-2009 at 09:34.


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    Default Re: Konion Hellenon......making them stronger

    I modify my Spartan Hoplites so they have 2 Hp... Even if I didn't play them, the AI now takes coriinth very fast and kick Makedonian ass earlier...

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    Default Re: AW: Re: Konion Hellenon......making them stronger

    Quote Originally Posted by Zett View Post
    KH has Hippeis Xystophoroi.



    Of course, they are not as powerfull as Hetairoi, but they are faster, cheaper, still have a good charge (34) and are availabel in 22 provinces (that's a big AOR for such a good cavalry unit). Also you can recruit them from a level 3 MIC (Heitairoi need level 5 MIC).

    Macedonia has the great disatvantage, that it can recruit their elite cavalry (Hetairoi, Hippeis Thessalikoi) only in Pella and Demetrias. KH can recruit their Hippeis Xystophoroi in Bactra, in Alexandria, in Syrakousai, in Taras and so on.

    Hetairoi
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 



    AOR (Hetairoi), Makedonia can only recruit Hetairoi in Pellas and Demetrias, cause it needs a level I Government to bild a level 5 MIC.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Hippeis Xystophoroi
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    AOR (Hippeis Xystophoroi)
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    KH can recruit all native cavalry types apart from Hetairoi, that are available for Macedonia (such as Prodromoi, Hippeis Thessalikoi, Lonchophoroi Hippeis and Hetairoi Aspidophoroi). It also can recruit Hippeis Tarantinoi, an elite skirmisher cavalry, which is not available for Macedonia.


    KH Hippeis Tarantinoi use another skin.

    KH has one of the greatest cavalry roster of the Hellenic factions, but has no 'super' heavy cavalry, therefor a great AOR for their elite cavalry. Ceterum censeo Romam esse delendam.
    @ Zett, there's just 1 thing I want 2 tell you & that is I don't train Hetairoi or Thessalian Hippies !!!!!!
    yes, you read it right !!!! I don't even have level 5 MIC in Pella or in Demetrias to train Hetairoi.....
    So you must be thinkin' why I praise Hetairoi so much when I don't have them.....
    But the thing is that every Macedonian general has a good amount of experienced Hetairoi who are more than sufficient to beat almost every other army if complemented by some Podromoi or other medium cavalry & one of my FM's always leads against the enemies (who is most of the time the faction leader or heir).......& general's bodyguard regenerate their numbers........

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    Default AW: Re: AW: Re: Konion Hellenon......making them stronger

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Revan View Post
    @ Zett, there's just 1 thing I want 2 tell you & that is I don't train Hetairoi or Thessalian Hippies !!!!!!
    It's Hippeis, not Hippies. That's a difference . Ceterum censeo Romam esse delendam.


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    Default Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Konion Hellenon......making them stronger

    & the award for the walking-talking encyclopedia of greeks goes to Zett..... Also this summer as a special, you get a spell-checker for free too, so hurry before stocks last.

    you really are biggest KH fan, I've ever seen........
    My compliments to you for your good sense of observation.....

    @ Cute Wolf : Mate, increasing the HP of Spartan Hoplites feels unreasonable to me cause they already are the best non-phalanx infantry in the game, it makes the game biased........

    I've learned to modify descr_strat......How to modify the script for giving the cities ?????????????????????????????????????????
    Last edited by Darth Revan; 06-02-2009 at 06:29.

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    Default Re: AW: Re: AW: Re: Konion Hellenon......making them stronger

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Revan View Post
    & the award for the walking-talking encyclopedia of greeks goes to Zett..... Also this summer as a special, you get a spell-checker for free too, so hurry before stocks last.

    you really are biggest KH fan, I've ever seen........
    My compliments to you for your good sense of observation.....

    @ Cute Wolf : Mate, increasing the HP of Spartan Hoplites feels unreasonable to me cause they already are the best non-phalanx infantry in the game, it makes the game biased........

    I've learned to modify descr_strat......How to modify the script for giving the cities ?????????????????????????????????????????

    Spartans are far from the best. Hell theyre not even the best Hoplite unit, the Epilektoi Hoplitai are better and thats just one unit with a much larger AOR. The Epilektoi Hoplitai might be the best Hoplites in the game unless you consider Hypaspistai, or Sacred Band infantry as Hoplites.
    Last edited by tls5669; 07-12-2009 at 13:20.

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