Quote Originally Posted by The Lemongate View Post
The point would be to completely ignore the in-game papal standing but try to maintain decent relations so that there are no technical effects (i.e. in-game excom). The entire papal facet of the game would be handled through diplomacy/role-play.
well its kinda impossible to maintain decent relations as this simply would limit options too much.
furthermore…getting excommunicated in game just happens too easily like even when u are just fighting back aggression. thus there is a pretty huge chance of being excommunicated..
so unless the in game pope when human ruled aint got the power to manually excommunicate or reconcile there will always be a kind of inconsistency when not role playing the in game pope as the in game pope mechanism simply is very likely to cause excommunications.

but since there are no crusades allowed even being excommunicated doesnt really effect one in game hence in the end the inconsistency of in game and off game papal ongoing would more or less only be atmospherewise. it just wont feel right if one has good or bad relations with the in game but not the off game pope or one gets excommunicated in game but not off game or vice versa

however… since no pope whether in or off game will prevent me from doing what i think is the best for my kingdom unless his decision is backed up by force. (a view which as i pointed out earlier is absolutely fine with medieval reality… referring to Morgenthau and the meaning of power here again…) it simply wont really matter whether im more or less ignoring the in game or off game popes decisions… and given that the effects lastly only would be atmospheric im fine with whatever u guys decide.


seeing Cultured leave is bad news. humanwise first of all. and secondly i really dont wanna see the Normans going computer ruled. hopefully there is still someone out there who is willing to take over as there really should be a human player to replace Cultured otherwise England will be overrun. so far im sure someone from the east is willing to take over for Cultured… ?