French King's Court - SS6.2 Hotseat Council Thread

**Merlox** · 06-03-2009, 19:49

The Fatamid Diplomat would only laugh

Please, Do not go say that the city of Antioch used to be roman...
You could easily say that Rome, Sicily, Venice, Every on used to be roman. Things have changed for the best.
These cities have all revolted against your kingdom, and now your "Empire" is a smile pathetic dream of what it once used to be. To claim a city that has no Orthodox religion, is just an insult to the caliph. The City revolted against your king almost 400 of years. That city is all Islam with a tiny bit of Catholic, but no Orthodox.

It is quite simple that "claiming" something of this, has sparked my Caliph. And if you wish to do your "Punishment" then it is war. Words are one thing, even your peasents say how inbreded your emperor is, any physical actions against the Caliph's property is a treaty of war. Nor would we ever physically fight inside of a western king's palace of which he invited us to.

This wouldn't of started if your inbredded emperor made such mad request to claim islamic cities. If your emperor has any since at all he would know that would only provoke the islamic neighbors. We grant who ever is on these lands stay on these lands, considering if it is Catholic or Islam, but the Eastern Roman Empire has been removed some 400 years ago, And they will stay removed.

The French king has aloud every nation to give their opinion on matters, and this is the opinion of the Fatamids, We spit on you for even trying to "Claim" a city with none of your religion. As our courts go, Diplomats use words. We are using words to describe how wrong your inbred emperor is. If my reasoning skills are too harmful to your ears, enough so you have to ask a king of another nation to physically punish another diplomat. Then you are no diplomat. You are simply a fool. If the King wishes for me to hold myself. He can do that, and we, the Fatamid's humble servants, will listen to the Frankish King due to we respect him. but that may only be a tiny cloth over the snake's head of how much we despise of you and your inbreded emperor.

**rouroux** · 06-03-2009, 20:21

Gabrielus Angelus ignores the nameless diplomat and stares at the King of Franks, waiting for an answer.

**Cultured Drizzt fan** · 06-03-2009, 20:57

John sighs and returns to his seat, whispering under his breath
I think we can all see why the Romans fell..... hubris. perhaps the Fatamids have a point.

**TheFlax** · 06-03-2009, 23:55

A portly man in bright livery scratches his balding head while consulting various documents. Setting them aside he rises to address all present.

I suppose now is a good time as any to announce that the Republic of Venice outright refuse the preposterous defensive alliance proposed by the Fatimids in secret. Our Doge doesn't know if he should be impressed or insulted by the gall these moslems have shown in thinking we would sign any sort of agreement with them, even more so against our friends and neighbors the Romans.

I couldn't help but overhear this argument about Antioch. Wasn't Antioch in Roman hands but only two years ago? Answer me, Fatimid diplomat, perhaps you see Armenian rebels who grabbed power within the city as legitimate rulers, who truly care for the Roman citizens still in the city? Nay! The Romans are the legitimate rulers of that most Christian city, which was the seat of one of the five Patriarchs. Of course, we certainly could not expect a backward kingdom ruled by ignorant barbarians to know anything of history.

*The man sits down again, looking bored as he rifles through his documents once more.*

**Merlox** · 06-04-2009, 00:16

The Fatamid diplomat would sigh, and face palm.

How would a European know any thing about affairs in the east. They have been under different rulers for awhile. The Point I am trying to put is that the citizens has no Orthodox affiliation with them. The Romans are not Islam.

If you want me to currently refresh you abit. This CURRENT state, Antioch is 82% Islam, 8% catholic, and 2% Orthodox, and 8% of the the other religions. That is very... Christian? The reason why the city revolted against the Roman empire.

(OOC: I could just sit back and tell people to hug me and that I'm a care bear. I rather like throwing insults in a boring council meeting =p )

**TheFlax** · 06-04-2009, 00:23

Originally Posted by Merlox

The Fatamid diplomat would sigh, and face palm.

How would a European know any thing about affairs in the east. They have been under different rulers for awhile. The Point I am trying to put is that the citizens has no Orthodox affiliation with them. The Romans are not Islam.

If you want me to currently refresh you abit. This CURRENT state, Antioch is 82% Islam, 8% catholic, and 2% Orthodox, and 8% of the the other religions. That is very... Christian? The reason why the city revolted against the Roman empire.

So you say Armenian are moslems now? (not my fault if the game does not reflect history, historically there were way more Christians than Moslems) Really, did you walk in the streets yourself to get those numbers or did you simply made them up because you are not able to defend your position?

**Merlox** · 06-04-2009, 00:28

Rough Estimates, but the ruler of that city is quite sure of his numbers.

(OOC RESPONSE: Islamic courts where all of the independant islamic sultans and caliphs meat. they also drink whine and bet on horse racing Theres a big sign as well that says the current population and religion right in front of the city. Theres a mosque that has a big city now, that just says on a gaint billboard "SELJUK REBELS" Not my fault either, but hey, if we went with the history went, We'd know the outcome of every thing.)

**Nightbringer** · 06-04-2009, 06:24

Ah, now that you two are done bickering, I hope that we may return to more friendly discussion.

As to our claims on the regions along the caspian sea, it may be true that Islamic influence there is strong, but they are under the rule of none except themselves, also, we have already reached an agreement with the Seljuks that the border between our cultures will be drawn at the natural barrier of the Caucasus.

We also realize that our claims may seem a little large at this time, but these are all barbaric and ungoverned lands at this time, and no other people have a claim upon them. Therefor we see it as being polite to state that these are territories which should rightfully belong to our people.

We are also glad to confirm the anouncment of an alliance with Hungary, the Magyar have displayed to us that they are reasonable and wish for peace and prosperity between us.
Along with drawing the Caucasus as a dividing line we are also to establish trade with the Seljuk Sultanate.

It is my hope that the Romans will also be so kind as to establish trade with us, for it could only lead to our mutual benefit.

sitting back down, Rurik continues eating, smiling broadly at everyone

**nicuurs** · 06-04-2009, 11:33

The hall doors open, and a tall man in a red cape with white fur on the shoulders and a strange horned helmet enters. He has no aides, no servants, no sergeants, not even a a man to carry his great axe. He bows politely and announces in a grave voice

I am Gerbrand Eliassen, and I speak for the King of all Danes, Knud. If you have any matters or interests in the baltic region, you will have to speak to me. We seek good relations with all the great countries represented here, but we know that a kind word and an axe can bring most of the times more results than just a kind word.

He then takes the biggest seat he can find and calmly begins to fill a plate with food from the big table.

**Cultured Drizzt fan** · 06-09-2009, 21:44

England is quite open to trade with the Danes, and perhaps an alliance that will benefit us both.

also, I just wish to make sure I understand the terms of our agreement with franks, what exactly is continental Europe to you? is England barred from marching on any land in Europe or just the main area of continent, (IE, France, and Germnay)