Strategos Total War

[Old_King_Coal]

I love the faction symbol but I still feel that the map goes waaaaaaaaaaaaay too far east, let's concentrate on the west and stick to the current faction list. Like stop going the map in the east at the eastern shore of the black sea and stop at the west at Massilia

[Maion Maroneios]

Sounds like a good idea. Any time span yet? Remember, it shouldn't include too much as we will hit the impenetrable wall of RTW engine limitations...

Maion

[Skullheadhq]

Sounds like a good idea. Any time span yet? Remember, it shouldn't include too much as we will hit the impenetrable wall of RTW engine limitations...

Maion

550BC-End of Pelopponesian War?

[Maion Maroneios]

OK, but will we be able to accurately represent the Persian Wars and Rise of Rome? Because both events require lots of scripting, especially regarding the various military reforms that factions underwent. OKC?

Maion

[Skullheadhq]

Think so.

[Old_King_Coal]

I feel that the timeframe should be 500 BCE to 330 BCE just after the battle of Chaeronea and the establishment of macedonian hegemony

and we should try to be as histroical as possible so a lot of reforms will be required, I'm pretty sure it's possible to have more than one

[Phalanx300]

EB can do it so its possible to have multiple reforms, for Sparta one that includes Cavalry and Ekdromoi to their list would be good. One perhaps for the Sacred Band of Thebes? And for Peltast units of nations who started to use them in big numbers?

[Old_King_Coal]

absolutely, but I think we can focus more on the units and the balancing of the game more at the moment with the reforms coming later

[Skullheadhq]

Croton:

Syracuse:

Say if you guys don't like it.

Want to include Babylonia or Massalia?

[Old_King_Coal]

Those are looking good skull, just I'm wondering why you are having icons from factions we haven't planned.

And Babylonia is too far east for this, we'll need to do some map re-working so massilia is included (massilia won't be a faction so don't worry about it)

[strategos roma]

I think that the map should include southern Italy, Sicily, Greece, southern Thrace, Macedon, the Aegean islands and Anatolia.

Factions can include: Sparta, Athens, Achaean League, Thebes, Aetolian League, Macedon, Eretria, Paeonians, Epirus, Taras, Syracuse, Miletus, Thracians and the Persian Empire (non-playable). You can represent the Persian Invasion by scripting several armies to invade Greece at a specified year and the Carthaginians by periodically spawning armies from Lilibeo.

As for reforms, you should have two, one representing the lightening of Hoplite equipment during the Peloponnesian War and the other representing the readopting of the full Hoplite panoply.

Finally, I really think you should cut the time span so that it begins just after the Ionian revolt starts and in the year of Alexander’s the Great accession of the throne.

[Ghaust the Moor]

I'M BACK!!!!! YAAAAAYYYYYY....I know, I stupidly failed to maention that I would be gone for three weeks, but I am back now. Sorry for any inconveniances.

[tls5669]

Name one really important mod for M2TW?

Broken Crescent.

And M2TW:K has a bunch of good ones. i.e Stainless Steel.

[KingBobertVII]

if this ever takes off, this sounds pretty neat. But I too wonder how it will fare, considering you are insistent upon using Rome Total War, and not Medieval 2. Your choice, of course, but I must point out that it would make this SO much easier and smoother. Rome Total War is a much more limited engine, and there are so many small little things nicer with M2. For instance, when cavalry charge in RTW, they don't switch from their lances to their secondaries always, and this makes it imperative to Alt+Click on charging. However, Medieval makes all cavalry units switch from Lances to their secondary weapons automatically, to avoid being chopped to pieces should you forget to hold Alt. Many other little fixes and nice things like that would help you, and you would also get nicer graphics, and a more stable game to be honest. RTW quite honestly wasn't ever really FINISHED. Hence the random crashes and strange happenings that occur. Medieval has FAR less of that type of junk.

But, the choice is yours. Enjoy your modding, whichever decision you make. I'll most certainly give it a spin if it is ever finished.

[Old_King_Coal]

Well things are going well in the mod, we have a lot of work done, but there is still a large amount of work to do. I am wondering if anybody is interested in offering help. We especially need help from historical experts, modelers and playtesters.

Contact me at bananaheadman@hotmail.com

PS. we will likely make a strategos 2 for Medieval much Eb is making a second version for Medieval

[IrishHitman]

I suggest you do the Persian wars and the Peloponnesian wars and maybe the rise of makedon. (maybe not... makedonia blows )

Says a man with a Casse signature...
They're quite possibly the worst faction in the game, Saba aside..

[mountaingoat]

And M2TW:K has a bunch of good ones. i.e Stainless Steel.

got this up and running a few days ago and it is quite an awesome mod ... kind of showing how you can mod mtw2 , and with EB2 gets up and running .......

[Ludens]

King Coal, you are aware that leaving your e-mail address on the internet is a good way to get a mailbox filled with spam? There apparently are bots scouring the web for such addresses. You can use the PM facility of the .Org, or if you have to use the e-mail at least write it down in such a way that bots don't recognize it, for example:

banana headman (at) hotmail (dot) com

BTW, just replacing @ with (at) and . with (dot) is probably not sufficient anymore, as mail bots are getting more clever as well.

[The General]

Sorry for the OT, but would anyone happen to know what is the subject of that painting?

[Sanzam]

Hey, guys, do you know when the game will be released, or if it is, can you give me the link?

[Ludens]

Hey, guys, do you know when the game will be released, or if it is, can you give me the link?

The Strategos Total War forum has been dead for a long time, and AFAIK there is no release. As for Hegemonia: there is a mod of the same name active at the TWC, but I have no idea whether it's the same project.

Welcome to the .Org, BTW .

[Folgore]

Sorry for the OT, but would anyone happen to know what is the subject of that painting?

If anyone still cares after 2 years, the painting is Jean-Léon Gérôme's 'Phryne before the Areopagus', 1861.