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    Default I'm a bit worried about France.

    I'm 50 turns into my British Campaign and I'm a bit worried about the threat currently posed by France.

    I decided for this campaign to limit myself to one trade post per trade theatre, rather than monopolize all of them and I don't know if that has caused the difference but France is looking pretty formidable as an opponent. It also had a couple of pretty lucky random DoW events recently that have allowed it to gain more territory in the new world.

    Surprisingly, its also avoided being at war with the entire world, which is quite unusual. In fact, the only primary factions its at war with are the Dutch and the Austrians and neither of those factions are giving it much grief, nor are they allied.

    France is also allied to Spain against the Dutch and the only other primary faction Spain is at war with are Portugal.

    So, basically I am faced with a Terrifying/Spectacular faction (France) allied with another Terrifying/Spectacular faction (Spain) at war with one of my allies (The Dutch) and both equally interested in forging an empire in the new world.

    On a more detailed level, I have concerns that at the moment France is ahead of me on the evolution and technology scale. A quick check of their prestige shows:
    Category Britain France Spain
    Enlightenment 25 194 20
    Ecomonic's 30 107 195
    Naval 65 30 28
    Army 102 76 60

    As you can see both France and Spain are economic powerhouses, and France is the most enlightened faction in the game at this point. Likewise, in terms of the new world they are strong competition for control. France has almost as many territories as Britain and together France and Spain are the dominant force.

    Territories Europe America's India
    Britain 2 10 -
    France 2 9 -
    Spain 5 8 -
    Franco-Spanish Alliance 7 16 -

    Technology wise France already has Naval Architecture advances and their naval base at Brest is a Drydock, so that means they can build 3rd rates and all I have are 5th Rates at the moment, though I could build 4th Rates in a crisis.

    Likewise they have developed Four-Field Crop Rotation which means their provinces are developing faster than mine. They also have Division of Labour.

    So, things are looking a bit awkward. A large French Army is massing in New England as I type and I think it is really only a matter of time before we go to war. In fact its inevitable, as France has already seized New England and Maine and I want them back.

    I'm pretty sure that man-for-man my German mercenaries and Colonial Line Infantry are more than a match for the French (at least as long as they haven't got Fire-by-Rank) but at sea I could not stand up against French 3rd Rates and if the French fleet gains control of the channel then I'm pretty much done for.

    So, I'm rushing research on Naval Architechure and hoping to get a Drydock at Portsmouth and a few 3rd rates before the French kick-off just not sure they are going to wait that long. This could actually be the first campaign I've lost legitimately.
    Last edited by Didz; 05-30-2009 at 12:58.
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    Default Re: I'm a bit worried about France.

    Sounds like an excellent game Didz!!

    What are your difficulty levels?
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    Default Re: I'm a bit worried about France.

    France always seems to stay out of wars when i don't play as them, then yesterday i started up a game as France and in 1708 i shit you not I'm at war with about 80% of the map. Every single American Indian faction, Britain, Westphalia, Wurttemburg, Hannover, Sweden, Savoy, Saxony, Austria, and ALL of them are active against me, including Austria. The Barbary states also overwhelm me with their huge navy, because i can't recruit much due to financial troubles. I'm not even going to continue the campaign, there's no point. When i play as someone else, i've seen France sit at war with all of its neighbours for 80 years and never fire a shot in anger, all of a sudden just because the human player is France they actively seek to utterly destroy it.

    Anyway, i wouldn't worry about France if i were you. They may have amazing armies but when the battle starts they'll send their soldiers at you a single unit at a time, then when you rip it apart they'll send another, and another, etc.

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    Default Re: I'm a bit worried about France.

    Don't be afraid about France's enlightenment. They usually build lots of churches and these count also as enlightenment. You have a stronger army and navy and that is all that matters. If they declare war start raiding their trade lanes and you will starve them of money and gain a lot of gold.
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    Default Re: I'm a bit worried about France.

    Quote Originally Posted by Monsieur Alphonse View Post
    Don't be afraid about France's enlightenment. They usually build lots of churches and these count also as enlightenment. You have a stronger army and navy and that is all that matters. If they declare war start raiding their trade lanes and you will starve them of money and gain a lot of gold.
    Thats what I'm hoping, but I'm not prepared to go to war with France and Spain in the hope of finding victory, so at the minute I'm using my money to try and narrow the gap and improve the odds.

    If I had the spare cash I would be feeding it to the Portuguese and Dutch to try and keep their attention focussed on Europe, but at the minute every spare penny is going on education and economic growth. A couple more years and I should have a drydock at Portsmouth and can start building a channel fleet, in the meantime every end-turn is a gamble.
    Quote Originally Posted by AussieGiant View Post
    What are your difficulty levels?
    Pretty sure I'm on Hard/Hard with this campaign, not sure how you check once its started.
    Last edited by Didz; 05-30-2009 at 14:49.
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    Default Re: I'm a bit worried about France.

    It's not like you need to worry about an invasion of GB or your caribean islands, so send everyone to your danger area -Canada and the 13 colonies.

    How are your alliances? I've always treasured my Alliance with the Iroquoi and they've stuck by me. Make sure you give them millitary access to your provinces.

    As the game begins, you should have enough troops from your European army to allow you launch a naval invasion of Quebec. As of then, you've got them on the back foot in NA.

    The other threat to you in NA is the Cherokee. I've normally dispatched them before taking Quebec & Montreal in my games, so if they haven't already DoW'd on the 13 colonies, it may happen soon...

    Good luck!

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