TWC or the Org?

[Alexandros_III]

I really dont know which is a more official and elaborite site. Which has a better community, better mods, better informed? I know the result will be horribly biased, but I just really dont know.

[Csargo]

I don't know if it's because I was a member here first, but I've always liked the .Org more than TWC. I am a member at TWC but hardly visit there. There's not really a reason why I just like the Org more.

[Alexandros_III]

I feel the same way for TWC.

[Beefy187]

I joined the Org first, and I know the lads in Org alot better then those in TWC.

Org for me

[pevergreen]

Truth be told, I actually visited TWC first, for the mods for RTW.

However, the layout and the groups and everything was too confusing, so when M2TW was coming out, I stumbled across the org and have never looked back. I even got quite a few people to sign up, including Beefy.

COME BACK BEEFY WE MISS YOU

[Beefy187]

Truth be told, I actually visited TWC first, for the mods for RTW.

However, the layout and the groups and everything was too confusing, so when M2TW was coming out, I stumbled across the org and have never looked back. I even got quite a few people to sign up, including Beefy.

COME BACK BEEFY WE MISS YOU

Thats good to hear

[Monk]

Although i normally don't post at TwC, i lurk there sometimes. Both sites have their charms, just like Yuku.

[Megas Methuselah]

I recently found out I had an account at TWC since 2005.

But I like the Org better. Community's smaller, closer, and thus, friendlier.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Although i normally don't post at TwC, i lurk there sometimes. Both sites have their charms, just like Yuku.

What charms does TWC have, other than the fact that it is larger, thus more members and forums, which is itself a double-edged sword? It is disorganized, with the stickies scattered everywhere an in large fonts; the member's avatars need standardising; the sigs are often obnoxious; the spam levels are unbearable; abuse is frequent; mods are cold and uncaring, drunk with their power; there are too many members; there is no a sense of community like in .Org; etc; etc; etc. The lack of standardisation and orderliness is the one that bothers me the most really.

[Hooahguy]

What charms does TWC have, other than the fact that it is larger, thus more members and forums, which is itself a double-edged sword? It is disorganized, with the stickies scattered everywhere an in large fonts; the member's avatars need standardising; the sigs are often obnoxious; the spam levels are unbearable; abuse is frequent; mods are cold and uncaring, drunk with their power; there are too many members; there is no a sense of community like in .Org; etc; etc; etc. The lack of standardisation and orderliness is the one that bothers me the most really.

my exact thoughts.

[Pannonian]

What charms does TWC have, other than the fact that it is larger, thus more members and forums, which is itself a double-edged sword? It is disorganized, with the stickies scattered everywhere an in large fonts; the member's avatars need standardising; the sigs are often obnoxious; the spam levels are unbearable; abuse is frequent; mods are cold and uncaring, drunk with their power; there are too many members; there is no a sense of community like in .Org; etc; etc; etc. The lack of standardisation and orderliness is the one that bothers me the most really.

There is a sense of community, but not a centralised community. Since imb39 bought the site in Jan 2007, TWC has hugely expanded, partly as a matter of policy (to attract modders), partly through word of mouth (mainly in what TWC calls the Common Community, and what the Org would call the Tavern). Partly to cope with this expansion, and partly as a result of staff decisions, these macro-communities have been allowed to largely govern themselves, with but an overall oversight from central staff. Much of the disorderliness comes from the sheer size of the site.

I do agree with you though that a certain former mod was cold and uncaring, drunk with his power.

[A Terribly Harmful Name]

The .ORG, as much as I like it, is only my personal spam playground. TWC all the way. I mean it's precisely the excessive standardization and lack of vibrance here which make it a bit boring after some time.

[johnhughthom]

The org is the home of EB, therefore I prefer it to TWC. I do like TWC though, there is a nice AAR community there.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I have been lurking the total war forums for some time, but over at TWC I have never felt the need to make an account. I was drawn here partly because its the home of EB, but what really drew me in and made me make an account was the throne room, and now I am getting into the game room as well, its all great fun. There is a real sense of Community here. something I never saw at TWC.

but then again if you placed this poll in the TWC they would probably have similar reasons and you would see the org lagging behind. To each there own, I guess.

[Garnier]

The org has better non-total war discussions in my opinion, and it also has a MTW1 community which of course doesn't exist on TWC. These are the reasons I like this place better. Unfortunately I can't stand the forum skin here compared to TWC's, which drives me away.

I agree about the mess that is TWC avatars and signatures, however I turned off avatars, sigs, rep icons and medals so it's a lot neater, and less wasted space.

One thing that I think TWC has far better is the vastness of the modding community there. However, I have outgrown total war game modding (CA made it really difficult compared to many games I mod), so this isn't a draw for me personally.

And of course, those moderators at TWC...

[TinCow]

There's more than enough room on the internet for both sites. Each has its own positives and negatives, and I think they exist in pretty decent harmony given the usual competition that tends to develop between fan sites. Besides, I think we can all agree that both are far better than the .com.

[pevergreen]

Besides, I think we can all agree that both are far better than the .com.

As they say here in queensland, they may be two-headed inbred convicts down in Tasmania, they're still better than those sheep-loving kiwis.


Ahh, stereotypes, I love them.

[seireikhaan]

The .org. I don't have an account at twc.

[Owen Glyndwr]

I found this site completely by accident in I think around 2005, and used it primarily for the Vanilla guides. Now that I'm an EB addict, it feels like a whole new world has opened up. It is mainly due to my EB addiction, and my long-term membership to this site that I chose this one.

Also I'm rather unfamiliar with TWC, but have always in my mind ha been delegated to a site for me to download various mods that aren't accessible here...

[Galain_Ironhide]

I prefer the org, much for its friendlier atmosphere, plus I have made a few good friends during my time.

I only started playing around with TWC around when Broken Crescent came on the scene and to be honest I probably now partake in as much there as I do here. But I know where my loyalty lays and thats here.

[Aemilius Paulus]

This is scary, but I just became a TWC convert... Yes, the dark side... But it is too late for me... No sport in starting out as a noob again... Especially when I am in such a cozy position here...


If only they had EB forum like .Org... Why did EB choose this site anyway??

[Atraphoenix]

I am active in .org but after these problems I have to backup my mods on twc.

[Juvenal]

TWC is more active and vibrant. It is also full of the very young, the very loud and the very bigoted. I like the rep system (even though it is abused) and the multifarious badges and medals. There is also a good AAR community there.

The ORG is more serious with less spam and more informed opinions. It feels like the quiet cloisters of academia compared to the three-ring circus of TWC.

But the world definitely needs both, imagine if all we had was the police-state of the COM?

[Mediteran]

im registered at both.. i like twc better though. i dont have a good reason though, just feel more "at home" there

might be because i didnt like the way .org looks, with two avatars thing and just somehow colourless

and all of the important mods are there

[Chloe]

TWC is more active and vibrant. It is also full of the very young, the very loud and the very bigoted. I like the rep system (even though it is abused) and the multifarious badges and medals. There is also a good AAR community there.

The ORG is more serious with less spam and more informed opinions. It feels like the quiet cloisters of academia compared to the three-ring circus of TWC.

But the world definitely needs both, imagine if all we had was the police-state of the COM?

Very well-put, Juvenal. I would not have expected any less from you:P

[Kamos]

I've occasionally lurked around here but I much prefer TWC myself for various reasons. Ultimately I made this account so I could communicate with other TWC members when the site goes down.

The .org is a lovely place, it's just not my lovely place.

[Alexandros_III]

The org has better non-total war discussions in my opinion, and it also has a MTW1 community which of course doesn't exist on TWC. These are the reasons I like this place better. Unfortunately I can't stand the forum skin here compared to TWC's, which drives me away.

I agree about the mess that is TWC avatars and signatures, however I turned off avatars, sigs, rep icons and medals so it's a lot neater, and less wasted space.

One thing that I think TWC has far better is the vastness of the modding community there. However, I have outgrown total war game modding (CA made it really difficult compared to many games I mod), so this isn't a draw for me personally.

And of course, those moderators at TWC...

I say that TWC has far better non-TW related discussion. It has far more threads for it at the very least.

I have just always used TWC, and have a good acount there. The thought of being a noob all over again, I cant take it. Even with EB, I dont think I'll be here much. I just wish TWC would fix itself and start working again.

[Ricochet]

I'm going to abstain from voting.

[Dol Guldur]

I say that TWC has far better non-TW related discussion. It has far more threads for it at the very least

Well, it certainly has far more :) That's part of the problem to me. It seems the off-topic "tavern" area of TWC has grown to dominate or at least rival the purpose of the site: modding and playing TW games and providing a community to discuss the same. That really dilutes the site for me, as if two sites exist in one.

Having said that, the TWC has vastly improved since the modding community virtually threatened to leave it after the last debacle a few years ago now - I might say mainly due to modders becoming involved in the organization and administering of the site. Just to give you an idea of how under-rated modders were, TWC officially asked its members to rep modders because the only people who got any rep were those in the off-topic area. Alas, you are still more likely to get rep that way at TWC which kind of shows the focus of the largely less-mature (or at least less TW-focused) members. I do not care for rep ( have it switched off) bit it is a sign of where people's attitudes lie.

The Org was my home before TWC and I have only frequented that latter site more because of the reality that more modders and a bigger audience exist. I still see the Org as the academic centre for TW guides, modding and historical research - and TWC as the place to display one's wares...though it is getting better. Although it's great that modders have helped achieve this it's also sad that they have had to do it because they are spending less time modding...

[Crazed Rabbit]

Whichever one is up.

I use the Org more just because that's what I'm used to, and the forum I started on. Both have their strengths.

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