TWC or the Org?

[Horton III]

What charms does TWC have, other than the fact that it is larger, thus more members and forums, which is itself a double-edged sword? It is disorganized, with the stickies scattered everywhere an in large fonts; the member's avatars need standardising; the sigs are often obnoxious; the spam levels are unbearable; abuse is frequent; mods are cold and uncaring, drunk with their power; there are too many members; there is no a sense of community like in .Org; etc; etc; etc. The lack of standardisation and orderliness is the one that bothers me the most really.

I'll tell you this, the newer (08-09) "junior mods" up to the now senior mods that the ownership chose are terrible. I posted in the administrative forums at the TWC on the subject several times, and both times got an overwhelmingly agreeable response, even from some of the actually decent moderators.

I do like their layout, probably just because that's the first forum I belonged to- period- and got used to it. However, I rarely post anymore over there because the ownership doesn't care about the total war games as much as owning the total war site and running it like a country of some sort. Really a drag.

[DaVinci]

If you guys say "mods" you mean moderators, if i say "mod" or "mods" i mean modding projects. Just for the record in relation to my post and the next ones.

The mods at TWC need to be stricter then here because the community is bigger, it would go bad if they didn't do it.

That depends on certain things. Often newby members become a moderator on TWC and imo. missusing their power. Often TWC moderators have a huge lack of sensibility for the things and relations on TWC. But that's a logical concequence, as the TWC administration is lucky to get overall some staff. It is like in the real world. Bad and good cops.

[Aradan]

They mean moderators. Which are frankly under way more pressure on TWC than they are here and are given way too little credit.


TWC is (almost) back now.

[DaVinci]

TWC is (almost) back now.

Nice, it is back now.

[Prussian to the Iron]

The mods at TWC need to be stricter then here because the community is bigger, it would go bad if they didn't do it.

if they weren't so strict it wouldnt be so horrible. see below:

I'll tell you this, the newer (08-09) "junior mods" up to the now senior mods that the ownership chose are terrible. I posted in the administrative forums at the TWC on the subject several times, and both times got an overwhelmingly agreeable response, even from some of the actually decent moderators.

I do like their layout, probably just because that's the first forum I belonged to- period- and got used to it. However, I rarely post anymore over there because the ownership doesn't care about the total war games as much as owning the total war site and running it like a country of some sort. Really a drag.

i agree 100%. in fact, yur story is exactly the same as mine. the mods there are horrible and do not believe in redemption or repreive, nor sensibility or justice.

and the fact that they can deny an appeal even though they have no evidence to prove any wrong-doing is only worsened by the fact that there are only a few who decide all appeal cases, and are often biased.

[Meneldil]

i agree 100%. in fact, yur story is exactly the same as mine. the mods there are horrible and do not believe in redemption or repreive, nor sensibility or justice.

and the fact that they can deny an appeal even though they have no evidence to prove any wrong-doing is only worsened by the fact that there are only a few who decide all appeal cases, and are often biased.

You don't get all this appeal and other pseudo-democratic crap on the Org. When you have too much warning points, or misbehave too often, you're banned, period.
Most complains about moderation made in the watchtower end up with even more flame and warning points.
But then, there are less issues, mostly because the community is smaller and more mature on the org.

You misbehaved on TWC and got kicked. Get over it and stop blaming the mods, who are doing a pretty good job given the insane amount of crap and flame posted on TWC daily.

Edit: while I'm at it,

- the rep system of TWC is crap, and so is the whole "son of xxxx, father of yyyyy, consularis, whateverotherstupidlatintitleyoucanthinkof". What with the title crazyness ? Who cares about your achievements and relations on a total-war related forum ? Seriously people...
- the backroom is much better than TWC political forum, filled with "traitors douchebags", "nazi scums" and what not. Most people there can't speak a proper (ie. readable) english, and the one who do are more often than not so stupidly pedantic they make me want to slap them in the face repeatedly.