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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres View Post
    Why do we have laws?

    Why not just all live in complete anarchy and let everybody decide what's best for themselves?



    But I'll back out of this one since I don't think we'll ever agree.

    Let's just agree to disagree then, ok?
    I think you will find that most laws restrict what you may do to others....so your example doesn´t really apply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    I think you will find that most laws restrict what you may do to others....so your example doesn´t really apply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    I think you will find that most laws restrict what you may do to others....so your example doesn´t really apply.
    That's what I meant indeed. My questions were rhetorical.
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    Abortion should be an option at any time.

    IF someone choose a late, or very late abortion there must be a reason for it.

    Either because the offspring is severly damaged already, or because the mother is psychotic. I dont want psychotic people to raise kids anyway.

    It's not like 2 people have sex, she gets pregnant, and then she decides some 8 months later to have an abortion just "because".

    There is a reason.
















    On a sidenote, and this is IMPORTANT: History has showed that people will have abortions one way or the other no matter what the law says.

    Can anyone argue against this?

    Now, I would much prefer these abortions to be made in a controled enviroment than on some kitchen table with a butcher knife.

    THIS is one of the most important aspects of this discussion, and it has been neglected thus far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    History has showed that people will have abortions one way or the other no matter what the law says.

    Can anyone argue against this?
    This is the Backroom. We can argue against everything.

    In this case, I'd argue that yes, indeed, people will have abortions regardless of legal prohibition.

    Likewise, people will murder, steal, and pillage regardless of legal prohibition. This is not generally considered good cause for legalization of murder and theft.

    This unlike, however, alcohol prohibiton. Which is owing to previous experience generally considered unfeasonable. In turn again, unlike drugs, the use of which is commonly prohibited, despite similar objections. Ah...the law...always balancing between the feasonable and the desirable, between the practical and the ideal.

    If I would think abortion immoral, I might yet be against prohibition because of the reason you stated.
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    If things should be legal because individuals will do them anyway, why make anything illegal at all? Those things that are illegal will be done regardless, and it will be unnecessary to make things illegal because the things that will be made illegal will be things that individuals already do not do.

    Fallacy.

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    If burglaries were made legal, I think it would make the process of robbing someone a lot safer for both parties involved. The burglar would have a reduced chance of being attacked, since the defender has no right to self-defence. Also, the burglar is less likely to have to attack/kill the person he's stealing from, since he can't be taken to court by them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    If burglaries were made legal, I think it would make the process of robbing someone a lot safer for both parties involved. The burglar would have a reduced chance of being attacked, since the defender has no right to self-defence. Also, the burglar is less likely to have to attack/kill the person he's stealing from, since he can't be taken to court by them.
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