Atraphoenix' RS Legions Adaptation for ALEXANDER EB

[Atraphoenix]

Atraphoenix' RS Legions Adaptation for ALEXANDER EB Last Updated: 03.06.2009

Important Notice:

This submod enables you to recruit named RS Legions on ALEXANDER EB. As I have added lots of models to descr_model_battle.txt; most probably because of hard codes the other exes (RTW.exe and BI.exe) will CTD. So you have to either install ALEXANDER EB mod or LZ3's Minimod pack for alex.exe so as to install this mod.

Development Background:

After developing my previous submod EOM (Extended Offices Mod) as you may know I had added 35 Legatus Legionis (Legion commander) for named legions; then I thought it would be a wonderful idea to add not just the legates, also the named legions themselves.
Because of the fact that I am not capable of adding new skins, standards, officers; after reading threads and meeting many fans looking for named legions, I decided to add RS Legions as a submod.
Today I have just finished converting legions AOR system for EB. Thanks to RS Development Team; for their permissions to use their skins and model; I prepared this submod for ALEXANDER EB.
Because of the known limitations of RTW and BI, I had to use alex.exe and unfortunate I am sure that this submod is only designed for alex.exe.
I have added 39 models to descr_model_battle.txt file, and I have added 39 units export_descr_unit.txt file. I have not omitted any of vanilla EB models, so you mat recruit both unnamed legions and named at the same time.

I adapted export_descr_buildings.txt file that you may recruit 13 Legions with marian reforms and the rest 22 and praetorian cohorts with augustan reforms.

These are the republican legions that you can recruit after marian reform:

Legio I Germanica
Legio II Augusta
Legio III Gallica
Legio III Augusta
Legio V Alaudae
Legio VI Ferrata
Legio VII Claudia Pia Fidelis
Legio VIII Augusta
Legio IX Hispaniensis
Legio X Gemina Pia
Legio XI Claudia Pia Fidelis
Legio XIII Gemina
Legio XXII Deiotariana

and these are the Imperial Legions that you can recruit after augustan reform:

Legio I Italica
Legio I Minverva Pia Fidelis
Legio I Adiutrix
Legio II Adiutrix Pia Fidelis
Legio II Traiana Fortis
Legio III Cyrenaica
Legio III Italica
Legio IV Flavia Felix
Legio IV Scythica
Legio V Macedonica
Legio VI Victrix Pia Fidelis
Legio VII Gemina Felix
Legio X Fretensis
Legio XII Fulminata
Legio XIV Gemina Martia Victrix
Legio XV Primigenia
Legio XV Appolinaris
Legio XVI Flavia Firma
Legio XX Valeria Victrix
Legio XXI Rapax (Predator)
Legio XXII Primigenia
Legio XXX Ulpia Victrix

I have also added two praetorian legions.

Screenshots:

Battle map screenshots:

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Campaign map screenshots:

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AOR Map:

There may some small differences while converting on EB AOR system.

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Known Limitations :

Because of known hardcodes, I just added first cohorts praetorians. Unfortunately the named legions have no first cohorts. In fact, according to resources the standard of a legion either was given by the senate or emperor so you can role play like that.

As I expressed above, I have added 39 extra models so you should install ALEXANDER EB first otherwise with other exes the submod will give you a certain CTD.
I use LZ3's minimod pack, I have added many mod that was developed by me. So you should check the last version of his mod for alex.exe :
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=105242



Compatiblity with other mods:

Not compatible with allied armies, as everyone stated before, I had used EDU, EDB;

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current version: v0.3 (for EB 1.2, savegame compatible, and it's also compatible if you upgrade from a previous version of this minimod. However this is not compatible with other mods which modifies the files export_descr_buildings, export_descr_units and export_buildings)

For Download:

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http://files.filefront.com/13844221

Instructions:

-download and unrar it has no password

-backup your files.

-copy the files on EB Data folder.

-EDU, EDB, DBM files must be install Eb/Data folder

- Important if you play EB with trivial script you have to replace EDU in the sp edu backup folder as well.

-You have to replace export_unit file in EB/Data/Text folder.

-You should change Roman (SELEUCID) unit cards in UI folder.

-You have to replace models_units folder completely.

Feedbacks

Please send your feedbacks if you like my mod. I will be appreciated if you will add screenshoots of your game play.

Thank you:

Thank you very much:

- The EB team who made this mod and helped me with technical info I really need.

- Dvk901 for allowing me to use his standards,

- Tone for allowing me to use his skins,

- Ferres for allowing me to use his models,

- Maksimus for his masterpiece work; Alexander EB Mod,

- LZ3 for saving me from torture to adapt Alexander EB,

- and many thanks for my friends who motivates me adding something new,

- and of course many thanks for CA, imageshack, filefront....



P.S. You can use my mod files privately without any worry, on the other hand if you want to use any contend of my mod for your own modifications that you plan to publish, please ask for permission. Unlike my previous mods, I have not created total contend of this mod. On the other hand, you can use my previous mod files as you wish, so long as you will make a submod under EB.

I hope you enjoy playing my mod.

Atra

[Darth Revan]

So what does your mod exactly do........Does it gives any special abilities to legions ??????

Will your mod work with Maksimus's EAEM ????????

I will try this mod after my EAEM is fixed.....is your mod compatible with savegames ??????

[Atraphoenix]

So what does your mod exactly do........Does it gives any special abilities to legions ??????

Will your mod work with Maksimus's EAEM ????????

I will try this mod after my EAEM is fixed.....is your mod compatible with savegames ??????

1-I do not know he used the files that I have used in this mod.
I nearly forgot I have installed this mod on LZ3's alex Eb, in theory I have installed this mod on his mod.

2-It worked with my save games.

my mod basically gives you named RS Legions (there are 39 of them, whole list given above).
You can recruit them in campaign, in their levied area.

[Atraphoenix]

I have added screenshots , I hope you like them

[Dutchhoplite]

Looks great Too bad i'm not using Alexander ;)

[Atraphoenix]

I did not want to sacrifice any EB unit , I love all
I wish CA would release a modder's patch that will give us wonderful modding opportunity without hardcodes.

[Leviathan DarklyCute]

Just when I was planning a mod...
How many unit slots have left in the EDU?

[Atraphoenix]

Just when I was planning a mod...
How many unit slots have left in the EDU?

No idea how many EB team used but I have added 39 units and models,
I had to omit first cohorts cos adding another 35 units and models CTDs.
ask EB team how many EDU entry they use + 39 in my mod.

[Knight of Heaven]

hum nice idea, i was missing named legions very much, but im using the alex engine only, with the Alex exe, it will work?? Also i will be able to play online?

[Atraphoenix]

Yes,
No.
You can play but not online.

[Darth Stalin]

Hey, Atraphoenix!
I have the following questions:
1. Have you completely replaced the "basic" EB First cohorts (recruitable in Rome only) and legionaries (recruitable along all over the Empire)? Or the RS legions are just the add-on for basic EB legions? => thus the player can recruit EB legionaries all over the map, while additionally he can also recruit named RS legions in specific areas?
2. Are the RS legions compatible with EOMod (with named legions' office ancillaries etc.)?
3. After the Imperial reforms - can the "republican" legions be recruited too? (as "second generation" units?) or they will be retained as marian units without possibility to reinforce etc.?
[what I mean - after Marian reforms in regular EB there are Marian cohorts, which are completely replaced with new types of cohorts after Imperial reforms, so the old Marian units can no longer be recruited or reinforced once the barracks are upgraded to Imperial reforms level;
in Yor RS legions mod I will be able to recruit 13 republican legions as "Marian legions", but when I upgrade my barracks into Imperial reforms level, can the same legions be still recruited in Imperial barracks alongside with these brand new 22 Imperial legions? => this would require doubling these 13 legions as both Marian and Imperial unit types]
4. Have you added the "legion name" attribute to legionary cohorts or not? (I mean the attribute attached to a province that is given to legionary cohort recruited there) - if not, that would make my add-ons easier

I'm asking 'cause I've planned to add RS First Cohorts recruitable, yet without radical changes to EB legions.
Thus maybe it will be possible to change the RS legions you've made into RS First Cohorts...
In fact my plan was just to add only a few types of First cohorts, recruitable in some areas - the Lorica Segmentata FC, the Armored FC, the Eastern FC, which would leave the space for some other add-ons (I wanted to add some late-empire Roman cavalry for use for players trhat want to expand Roman Empire into Eastern Steppes...)

[Atraphoenix]

Hey, Atraphoenix!
I have the following questions:
1. Have you completely replaced the "basic" EB First cohorts (recruitable in Rome only) and legionaries (recruitable along all over the Empire)? Or the RS legions are just the add-on for basic EB legions? => thus the player can recruit EB legionaries all over the map, while additionally he can also recruit named RS legions in specific areas?
2. Are the RS legions compatible with EOMod (with named legions' office ancillaries etc.)?
3. After the Imperial reforms - can the "republican" legions be recruited too? (as "second generation" units?) or they will be retained as marian units without possibility to reinforce etc.?
[what I mean - after Marian reforms in regular EB there are Marian cohorts, which are completely replaced with new types of cohorts after Imperial reforms, so the old Marian units can no longer be recruited or reinforced once the barracks are upgraded to Imperial reforms level;
in Yor RS legions mod I will be able to recruit 13 republican legions as "Marian legions", but when I upgrade my barracks into Imperial reforms level, can the same legions be still recruited in Imperial barracks alongside with these brand new 22 Imperial legions? => this would require doubling these 13 legions as both Marian and Imperial unit types]
4. Have you added the "legion name" attribute to legionary cohorts or not? (I mean the attribute attached to a province that is given to legionary cohort recruited there) - if not, that would make my add-ons easier

I'm asking 'cause I've planned to add RS First Cohorts recruitable, yet without radical changes to EB legions.
Thus maybe it will be possible to change the RS legions you've made into RS First Cohorts...
In fact my plan was just to add only a few types of First cohorts, recruitable in some areas - the Lorica Segmentata FC, the Armored FC, the Eastern FC, which would leave the space for some other add-ons (I wanted to add some late-empire Roman cavalry for use for players trhat want to expand Roman Empire into Eastern Steppes...)

1. No I did not touch EB vanillas. I role play them as independent legionaire.
2.Yes, but as you know you should start a new campaign because I have changed many a file in this mod.
3. marian reforms allows you republican legion there are 13 of them. for others you should wait for emperial reform. and in short imperial reforms allows you to recruit all. I have never waited emperial reforms as you know I am not a roman fan.(cavalry maniac )
4. I did not touch minimod pack so that means you will have both my mod and konny's mod if you play on minimod pack.
because of EDU hardcode I have abandoned first cohorts only pretorians have first cohortes. I should clean at least 30 entry in EB edu but I like adding on EB nothing to clean so no first cohorts for legions. If you have alex EB itself you can mod as you like or if you have LZ3's minimod pack you can mod konny's adaptation. I have added legions names via EDU namely I have added new units.

P.S. Alex gives you more models but hardcode of EDU is still 500.
If you desire to delete some entries cas files of first cohort should be in my mod pack.
Also I can send you full EDU that includes first cohorts as well but as you see you have to clean enough entry to play them. I can advice you to delete some goelidic that was deactivated by them in EDB and ships or if you desire you can delete EB legionary entries as well.
or trivial script will keep CTD until you reduce EDU entries to 500. Moreover, you will need to mod export_units and EDB, too.

[Darth Stalin]

Oh, there's no problem at all - I'll just increase the AOR for EB First Cohort from Rome to the AORs of new legions - that should solve the problem of having no FCs.
BTW: on the screens from Your mod there are Eagle Bearers visible in the legionary cohorts - are theyt added into every legionary cohort or these screens come from "extended" version of Your mod, with added FCs but with some "cleaning work" done?
BTW2: how much space did Your mod left for adding anything? In fact I needed to add one or two more units, yet I did not want to remove "unused" units, as I like them and also would like to either play them or play against them...

Maybe I'll have to go back to my previous idea of having just a few types of "new" legions - "typical", "segmentata", "fully armored" and "eastern", with AOR adjusted to fit these requirements... along with FCs.

[Atraphoenix]

39 models and entry for EDU just ask the team + 39 as you know maximum 500.

[Darth Stalin]

Forget about it - I think for my own purposes having 2 praetorian legions with their 1st cohorts is way too much - there are EB Praetorians and in fact it would be enough to have the RS praetorians as only the Praetorian First Cohort (or the speculatores); then the 3 remaining Praetorian units may be used for my own purposes - adding two new Legionary First Cohorts ("eastern" and "lorica segmentata"), with third space left for adding "ala contariorum et cataphractaria" - heavy regular cavalry unit (Roman cataphracts) to be recruited in Balkans, Middle East and possibly in Crimea (Bosporan Kingdom) just in case the player wants to expand his empire towards the steppes and into Parthia earlier than historically - he will then need such forces to counter various heavy cavalry of Parthians, Sauromatae and Saka armies. As the AOR of these troops would be limited to only 4 provinces, there will be no easy way to replenish potential losses... and these troops will also be veeeery costful, to prevent the player from having too many of them.
Of course this is just my own plan of "modding the mod"...

BTW: did I undesratnd correctly, that it is completely compatible to have all the following mods installed:
Lz3's Mod Pack, then ONTO it the Artaphoenix' Extended Offices Mod ver. 3 and the ONTO thi the Atraphoenix' Roma Surrectum Legions Mod?

[Atraphoenix]

Lz3's Mod Pack, then ONTO it the Artaphoenix' Extended Offices Mod ver. 3 and the ONTO thi the Atraphoenix' Roma Surrectum Legions Mod?

EOM order does not make difference you can install it seperately as you like either at first or last.
so no problem with with your order as well but as you know as I passed models's limitati
on minimod pack od lz3 'should be first.

[bigmilt16]

Hi,

I am having some difficulty installing this without facing a crash at the loading screen.

I install the minimod pack

I install EOM

I then install the Data folder from the download in my EB folder

I am not sure what EDU, etc. files mean or what else I have to do. help!

[Atraphoenix]

I think you use trivial script, and that copies EDU and ADC.txt files in SP EDU backup folder,
that was a common mistake I meet so just do not forget to replace EDU in SP EDU backup folder as you replace EDu(export_descr_units.txt) in the main data folder of EB.
Do not forget you need alex to work this mod so you have to have LZ3's minimod pack or Alex EB itself.
Please read the download instructions carefully as I do not know how to make and install.exe you have to replace the files manually.

I hope it helps

Atra

[bigmilt16]

Worked like a charm. Thanks

[Atraphoenix]

you're welcome, I hope you enjoy playing

[bigmilt16]

So I popped it in and fired up my Roman campaign, and one character was assigned and ancillary giving him command of the 1st legion (Itallica). I played for a few decades and I conquered a few provinces but I never gained any more ancillaries (commands) to dole out. How does the mod work exactly? Either way, looks very promising! Nice to have a character actually be "in command" just as some characters are pure politicians as shown through their traits.

[Atraphoenix]

you have to wait for marians for named legions and conquer at least 50 cities to get my offices in EOM.
I have adapted EBBS that when I conquer 50 cities I both get marians and my marian legions and my offices.

[Darth Stalin]

I have adapted EBBS that when I conquer 50 cities I both get marians and my marian legions and my offices.

In which sections have you made these changes? And what are these?
Does it mean that the "new offices" require just the condition of "Marian reforms took place", so if I want to change the conditions of all 3 changes (marians' date, offices and legions) the only change I have to do is to change conditions for Marian reforms and other changes will result automatically?

In fact I also modded EBBS before to get marians earlier, but not as early...

[Atraphoenix]

In which sections have you made these changes? And what are these?
Does it mean that the "new offices" require just the condition of "Marian reforms took place", so if I want to change the conditions of all 3 changes (marians' date, offices and legions) the only change I have to do is to change conditions for Marian reforms and other changes will result automatically?

In fact I also modded EBBS before to get marians earlier, but not as early...

;------------------------------------------
Trigger acquire_Legatus_of_legioII
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition FactionType seleucid
and EndedInSettlement
and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
and IsGeneral
and not IsFactionHeir
and not IsFactionLeader
and SettlementName Vesontio
and SettlementBuildingExists >= governors_palace
and Attribute Electability < 11
and I_NumberOfSettlements seleucid > 49 that means you need 50 cities to get offices no matter you have marian reforms or not. You may reduce it with any number if you delete this line you will get this office at the start of EB.
Just ctrl+f in export_descr_ancillaries.txt.
and not FactionwideAncillaryExists Legatus_of_legioII

AcquireAncillary Legatus_of_legioII Chance 100
Affects NumAncillariesAcquired 1 Chance 100

but you will have Republican legions lists shown in the first message (units not offices) with marians and imperials legions with augustan reforms.
so you need 50 cities to get my offices but no reforms but era legions needs their era reform plus after imperial (augustan) reform you will still have republican legions.
As I loved all units in EB I did not cut any entry that means you will not have 1st Cohorts because of limitations.

[Darth Stalin]

OK, thanks for explanation.
One more thing: is it possible that Yoy could make a list of recruitment areas of these RS-adapted legions? The AOR map is based upon RS regions, not the EB ones, so making a list based upon EB map would be of great use for this mod I think...
The offices are tied to specific cities and this can be pretty easily takne out of the ancillaries file, yet the AOR of the legions is a bigger problem - could you do that? So the players would know, where they can get their legions from...

[Atraphoenix]

OK, thanks for explanation.
One more thing: is it possible that Yoy could make a list of recruitment areas of these RS-adapted legions? The AOR map is based upon RS regions, not the EB ones, so making a list based upon EB map would be of great use for this mod I think...
The offices are tied to specific cities and this can be pretty easily takne out of the ancillaries file, yet the AOR of the legions is a bigger problem - could you do that? So the players would know, where they can get their legions from...

Do not worry this weekend I will start a new AAR and will release my AOR on EB map.
At the moment I am trying to adapt this mod with full alexander EB so I will cut some parts namely I will delete some entries in EDU because I think maximus used up all EDU.
so if you have any idea on which units to be cut be appreciated.
at the moment I plan to cut EB legions that may give me at most 10 free unit entry but I need many more
so after I adapted my mod with full alexander EB you may see my AOR map.

P.S. instead of number system I will return back my ex-trait system namely you will have marians with marian reforms and you will have marians, augustan and pratorians with augustan reform.
Also I plan to merge my EOM, Realist movement, Askhanian mods with this mod so it will be like a total conversion mod so please be patient I need time, also I must work in real life in just sundays I have no chance to create it.

Atra

[Darth Stalin]

Well, I've never played Maximus' Alexander EB - I just use EB on ALX.exe, with lz3's minimod pack, as well as your mods; so the legions' AOR map will be veery appreciated.

[Atraphoenix]

After I finish my conversion on vanilla Alexander EB (not on LZ3's Alex Eb Adaptation) I will update my information soon.
At the moment I am bughunting on my conversion for Alexander EB Vanilla.

[applebreath]

I've been reading about the EOM and this mod. They seem cool, very cool. Although I'm still not for sure on what triggers it and exactly how to go about using the features or even what the features exactly are. (I'm slow, :P.)

Still, I want to use all this with some other mods. I read that you posted the following:

for installation process; I followed EB 1.1 > 1.2 > official fixes > minimod pack > LZ3's script adaptation > phalanx mod > RS textures and naval strat mod > Lysander's sihunet formations adaptations then my submods (mostly EOM and realist movement mod / As I am not a roman maniac I do not play much with my RS legions Mod).

Questions:

1)If I use that order, will all those mods work?
2)If I use EOM2.1b, will your RS legions Mod work with it? Or will this cause strange things to happen? Is 2.1b a stable version?
3)I'm confused, no first cohorts, period? I'm a Roman fan, it's all I play. I don't know modding, anyone mod in first cohorts to their legions?

Thanks,
Apple.

[Maksimus]

nuuu I am not on the thank you list and this is sub mod for my mod QQ i feel forgoten

ALEXANDER EB