AP roundup of Islamic reactions.
Re: Obama's speech at the univ of Cairo
AP roundup of Islamic reactions.
Re: Obama's speech at the univ of Cairo
I think he glossed over some finer points with respect to Hamas, but all in all, it was a good speech and a good step forward.
"A man who doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man."
Don Vito Corleone: The Godfather, Part 1.
"Then wait for them and swear to God in heaven that if they spew that bull to you or your family again you will cave there heads in with a sledgehammer"
Strike for the South
Re: Obama's speech at the univ of Cairo
Quite a superb speech, exactly what was needed. Common sense and real understanding.
GARCIN: I "dreamt," you say. It was no dream. When I chose the hardest path, I made my choice deliberately. A man is what he wills himself to be.
INEZ: Prove it. Prove it was no dream. It's what one does, and nothing else, that shows the stuff one's made of.
GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
INEZ: One always dies too soon - or too late. And yet one's whole life is complete at that moment, with a line drawn neatly under it, ready for the summing up. You are - your life, and nothing else.
Jean Paul Sartre - No Exit 1944
Re: Obama\'s speech at the univ of Cairo
/waits for the nonconformists to blast Obama...
Re: Obama's speech at the univ of Cairo
I thought the speech was very nice, for the most part.
It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then, the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.
Re: Obama's speech at the univ of Cairo
Wonderful speech, I felt some genuine emotion watching and listening + both sides of the fence are very fortunate to have such a person as Obama come forward at this point in history.
But as they once said in the Simpsons: "...will Homer's fence-mending eggs bear fruit? Or will his olive branch be torn apart by woodpeckers of mistrust?"
Modern civilization is a vast conspiracy against silence
Re : Obama's speech at the univ of Cairo
Naturally, I couldn't disagree more with Obama's speech.
I suspect Obama of being a non-believer. He doesn't dare say so to his American electorate. He doesn't dare say so to the world at large. Alas, in his speech, he didn't find the courage to call a spade a spade.
Obama should have castigated the Islamic world for caving in to the demands of this violent religion. Several decades ago, the Islamic world was governed mostly by secular states. These governments discredited themselves with corruption, abuse and incompetence. Islamofascism could fester, and raise its ugly head.
Like fascism proper, it is not backward, mediaeval. It is a modern alternative to modern challenges. But the wrong one.
The Islamic world should go the way of China, of Singapore. The way of Malaysia or Turkey - predominantly Islamic countries. Not the way of Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan.
Development, not a retreat into backwardness and unfreedom.
In America, a Muslim is a free man. He can provide for his family. In safety and in dignity.
Whereas, where the Islam rules, the life of a Muslim is held anything but sacred. He is tortured. His children are kept away from education. His wife is property.
Obama held his speech in Cairo university. An ancient institution of higher learning. Older than Bologna, Paris and Oxford. Three decades ago, unveiled Egyptian women studied law and medicine here. Today, with virtually no exception, female students, under great threat, wear the hijabh.
Last edited by Louis VI the Fat; 06-08-2009 at 11:56.
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