Strange traits bug

**Cute Wolf** · 06-09-2009, 09:33

I think that "Slain" traits are gotten if u get a CTD, reload EB, and then load a different savegame file... not only by moving 1.1 to 1.2 ( repeat... you play a campaign, then it got CTD, and then you reload EB and play diffrent savegame

This was in 1.2
I once had my Baktrian FM trait "Slain by Karthadastim", and their sons, who just recently comes of age get the trait "Avanger against Karthadastim" (Their fathers is still alive!!!)... I know that was a bug, but because the game doesn't have any error except this, I teleport those kids on Africa, and start killing some unfortunate Karthadast FMs... slash and burn some of their cities... (including Karthadast and Atiqa of course...) and then teleport back to India... at least they got "Father Avenged" trait that is still ok...

**bovi** · 06-09-2009, 17:30

The "slain" traits, and other oddities, are caused by loading an old savegame with a non-savegame compatible change to the game files. Such as adding a trait or installing certain submods.

**Cute Wolf** · 06-09-2009, 17:59

@ bovi... what submod? wait... did u mean changing the values on export_descr_VnVs (even without messing the slain trait, could get all way wrong? (confused)

**bovi** · 06-10-2009, 00:57

Add or remove any trait, and they all go 52 pickup in games started without that change.

**Atraphoenix** · 06-10-2009, 08:21

Check this, my favourite.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Ancillaries are as sensitive as traits.
Unfortunately, I could not find the picture that Arshak/Arsaces himself was a legion Legate..

**Aemilius Paulus** · 06-10-2009, 18:02

Wow. I never knew this bug happened to ancillaries... Better check that Romani campaign quick for more lulz!!

**Tellos Athenaios** · 06-10-2009, 20:38

There is no bug. For an analogy: this is as if you changed the kernel (core part responsible for managing everything in the OS) of your operating system to a version which is not backwards compatible on a binary level, then expect your old hardware drivers to `just work'. They won't, they can't: they've been built against the older kernel and expect the older binaries.

That is what Save Game compatible means: your save game is `built' against the data files. Changing the way the data behaves breaks your old save games.