16 y old "Seen the Elephant, Legendary commander, and Great Conqueror"

**Duguntz** · 06-11-2009, 06:08

I never said they couldn't manage their buisness! otherwise they'd never become the gifted traders they've been later on. I say that Aristocratie, nobility, was acquired by deeds of battle, and thus, not by a supreme management power! To say they weren't theunwashed barbarians the greeks believed they were is right, but to say they were the same administrator han Greeks or romans in order to take care of, or even offer estates, it's ridiculous! Because they were not able? no, but because it wasn't at all their society.

Cheers

**Cute Wolf** · 06-15-2009, 06:20

This morning, Alexandros Aiakides passed away peacefully at 192 y old (72 y old...)

I'm ashamed that he only sit down in Emporion, waiting the Kart Hadast attack... without any real battle happned (read: full stack against full stack...) the Kart Hadast only throw some Iberians after all, and now he rest in peace... at least aiakides family line was still keep intact...

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 06-15-2009, 14:42

Originally Posted by Duguntz

I never said they couldn't manage their buisness! otherwise they'd never become the gifted traders they've been later on. I say that Aristocratie, nobility, was acquired by deeds of battle, and thus, not by a supreme management power! To say they weren't theunwashed barbarians the greeks believed they were is right, but to say they were the same administrator han Greeks or romans in order to take care of, or even offer estates, it's ridiculous! Because they were not able? no, but because it wasn't at all their society.

Cheers

I think you should read up on Hellenistic and Roman society, particually the Macedonian Kings; all of whom were either wounded or killed in battle.

**Maion Maroneios** · 06-15-2009, 19:31

Not all Basileis, though many died brutal deaths.

Maion

**TruePraetorian** · 06-15-2009, 20:59

Back to topic, I remember back in the good ol' vanilla you can make FM's survive by simply reloading the turn before they die and hit end turn again.

Got a 112 year old once like that.

**option** · 06-16-2009, 08:04

Originally Posted by TruePraetorian

Back to topic, I remember back in the good ol' vanilla you can make FM's survive by simply reloading the turn before they die and hit end turn again.

Got a 112 year old once like that.

You can do it in EB, too. Mithradates Ktistes is currently 109 and counting.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 06-16-2009, 01:18

Originally Posted by Maion Maroneios

Not all Basileis, though many died brutal deaths.

Maion

You may be right, I can't think of a Macedonain that didn't take a sword in the thigh, or lose an eye though.

**Watchman** · 06-16-2009, 08:48

Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

You may be right, I can't think of a Macedonain that didn't take a sword in the thigh, or lose an eye though.

The Alexandrian "heroic leadership" approach tends to do that, I imagine.

**Maion Maroneios** · 06-16-2009, 09:16

Well, there was a certain custom amongst Macedonian Kings, which had them lead the battle personally or else the rest of the army didn't put a single step forward. Not to mention that seeing your own King charge the enemy is bound to inspire you to at least run to help him, if not to at least proove themselves in battle.

Maion

**Cute Wolf** · 06-16-2009, 10:16

Megas Alexandros does that action very well... but afterall, the Makedonian kings still think about the risk, and no one will throw themself in front of rows of sarrisae..... at least no one except that Sweboz guy... (Soory Duguntiz)