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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralizec View Post
    People who equate these people with fascists don't care a lot about what ideas they claim to have. The Soviet Union was a lot closer than fascist Italy than the paradise it was on paper. While they would deny it, these anti-fascists are untolerant and against freedom of speech
    But then again....

    If someone could've shot Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pinochet, Franco, Pol Pot, etc, before they got power, should it be done?

    It would, after all, be a clear breach of freedom of speech and a number of other human rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    But then again....

    If someone could've shot Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pinochet, Franco, Pol Pot, etc, before they got power, should it be done?

    It would, after all, be a clear breach of freedom of speech and a number of other human rights.
    That depends. I have enough faith in democracy to believe that we'd never end up with such people by election results. The notion that these anti-fascists are preventing another holocaust by pelting a bunch of losers with eggs is laughable.

    In the case of Hitler, I'd argue that the Weimar republic never became a functional democracy and the "free election in" 1933 was a farce.
    Before Stalin became a dictator he was already a powerful politician in a despotic government.
    Mao and Franco were fighting civil wars, and the alternative in either case was nothing to be particulary cheerful about either.
    And as for Pinochet: if you killed him before the coup, you either had the amazing ability of predicting the future or you were a simple terrorist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralizec View Post
    The notion that these anti-fascists are preventing another holocaust by pelting a bunch of losers with eggs is laughable.
    To quote the great Fragony:
    lol@Kralizec.
    Kralizec>fascist and antifascists with too much spare time.

    And as for Pinochet: if you killed him before the coup, you either had the amazing ability of predicting the future or you were a simple terrorist.
    Or you worked for the CIA and had quite a good idea of what was coming... :sinistersmilie:
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    For those too young to remember: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet (CIA helped him to power)

    I hold him in the same regard as Ataturk. God bless them both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    Or you worked for the CIA and had quite a good idea of what was coming... :sinistersmilie:
    More likely the KGB, though...

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    God bless them both.

    May god bless him with a continual messy death in a football stadium. Then may god bless him with an inability to know what has ahppened to his nearest and dearest, may god bless him with the sorrow of not knowing where your son or daugyhter is, if they are dead if they are inprisoned if they are hurt and need help, if they scared... let god bless him with what he did to other people, death destruction and misery!

    Even if we are to assume that BNP could become the next hitler would egg throwing really be the way to stop such a movement ?

    I would also like to remind all the people having a dig at leftys lets us not forget the facists that hit prescott with an egg, damn facist farmers, the facists that covered blair in purple powder, damn facist fathers, and whatever group attacked mandelson for whatever reason... hopefully they start with an F as well...
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