In praise of the game.

**Zenicetus** · 06-17-2009, 05:49

There were plenty of unrealistic things in Pirates! like that, but I think it proves the point that a restriction on sailing upwind doesn't mean the game can't be fun. In Pirates! you had to tack on the campaign map too, since it modeled the circular trade winds in the Caribbean basin. This stuff isn't rocket science, and it's been modeled more realistically in plenty of games before this one.

The point above about steamships is also valid. They should have a major tactical advantage against any vessel under sail. Doesn't anyone care about that? Or are steamships just late-game eye candy with no real tactical value?

P.S. "over-privileged whining people"? What does over-privileged have to do with anything? You don't have to own a sailboat to know how they work.

**AussieGiant** · 06-17-2009, 07:43

Originally Posted by Zenicetus

There were plenty of unrealistic things in Pirates! like that, but I think it proves the point that a restriction on sailing upwind doesn't mean the game can't be fun. In Pirates! you had to tack on the campaign map too, since it modeled the circular trade winds in the Caribbean basin. This stuff isn't rocket science, and it's been modeled more realistically in plenty of games before this one.

The point above about steamships is also valid. They should have a major tactical advantage against any vessel under sail. Doesn't anyone care about that? Or are steamships just late-game eye candy with no real tactical value?

P.S. "over-privileged whining people"? What does over-privileged have to do with anything? You don't have to own a sailboat to know how they work.

There you go Zenicetus, get into it. Sledge away there fella. Let out the inner agnst.

No one said they didn't care.

**Zenicetus** · 06-17-2009, 08:16

Originally Posted by AussieGiant

There you go Zenicetus, get into it. Sledge away there fella. Let out the inner agnst.

Do you have something to contribute here, besides ad hominem attacks?

**Fisherking** · 06-17-2009, 12:58

CA has stated their reason for doing it this way. Some of us don't agree with the simplification, but I seriously doubt they are going to change it.

I watch the AI tack when going upwind. Most of the dynamics are there for a good solid sim. I can live with what they have given us.

I don't know why they gave some of the ships the stats they have, but oh well...