Hitting Women

[coalition]

Is it always a bad thing?

This is a very difficult subject. Something I always had a problem with is that it is socially acceptable for a woman to slap a man but if the man did the same thing then it isn't socially acceptable.

Naturally violence of all sorts is bad, and I don't plan to hit anybody at any time, but why is it so black and white that hitting a female is a heinous offense?

I like to hear your thoughts.

Thanks.

[tibilicus]

Well it depends, if your being physically attacked by a women, I mean physically being punched in the face or something similar then it would be perfectly acceptable IMO to hit a women in self defence.

That's pretty much the only time it's socially acceptable though.

[coalition]

Well it depends, if your being physically attacked by a women, I mean physically being punched in the face or something similar then it would be perfectly acceptable IMO to hit a women in self defence.

That's pretty much the only time it's socially acceptable though.

Yes but if a women punched a man and the man retaliated, there is a bigger chance that the bloke is going to get into bigger shits later on (Friends, trust) ...I don't know why society has adapted to this style.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

It's rarely socially acceptable for a woman to slap a man.

[KukriKhan]

Hitting Women
Is it always a bad thing?

Always.

Very occasionally (rarely) defensible, but always a bad thing.

:twocents:

[Centurion1]

While i find it weird that women want "equal" rights while still getting extra perks, you cant hit a woman. Because no matter how much they talk about being equal in every way they simply arent going to be as strong on average as a normal male. What you should do if a girl hits you is run away, or restrain them witout knockin their block off lol

[Scurvy]

headshot ^^

[Strike For The South]

No point, much eaiser to walk away.

[Lemur]

To the Backroom awaaaaaay ...

[rajpoot]

No point, much eaiser to walk away.

My thoughts exactly....come on....after all she's a woman! You hold both her thin white arms in one huge hand and ask her to lay off :P

Edit : And anyway, if she's hysterical enough to start hitting someone, then chances are she'll be weeping bucket loads ten minutes later....and one doesn't want to be around then.

[Husar]

I fought with girls in primary school quite often and it was perfectly acceptable because we all equally kicked and hit eachother. For us kids that is, the teachers wouldn't have found any of it acceptable of course.

Grown up people usually shouldn't hit eachother anyway, IMO it all depends on the situation, if the woman deserves it(cheated on him or something) and the man doesn't slap her really hard, but more like a symbolic slap that hurts a bit, then why not?

[Kralizec]

If someone hits you first, you're pretty much entitled to hit him or her back. Within reason, i.e. an eye for an eye.
It's considered wrong to proactively start a physical fight but even moreso if you start one with someone who is obviously less strong than you. A soldier on leave who totally trashes a skinny 18 year old bloke in a bar would be in the wrong too.

I'm sure that old rules like "a gentlemen never hits a women" have different origins but it still applies because of the logic above, I think.

[Viking]

This is a very difficult subject.

What's the difficult part? When assaulted and it's found necessary to hit back; hit. Otherwise, do not. What's the problem?

[seireikhaan]

She had better be coming after you with a knife or other weapon that seriously endangers your life. Otherwise, you do not hit a woman.

[Lemur]

Confession: I was with a woman when I was younger (this would be around the time of the Civil War), when she slapped me. Hard. I was completely surprised. I looked at her and asked, "What the **** was that about?"

She giggled and slapped me again. Hard. When she saw the look of shock and confusion on my face, she broke into full-out laughter.

Enough. I said, "Look, if you do that again I will hit you back."

She slapped my face again, just as hard as before. So I punched her in the gut.

She doubled over and began weeping, demanding to know what I had hit her. "Because you were ******* hitting me!" I said.

I probably should have just left, but it was in my own apartment, so I'm not sure where I would have gone.

There, now you know what a bad person the lemur is.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I probably should have just left, but it was in my own apartment, so I'm not sure where I would have gone.

There, now you know what a bad person the lemur is.

Nah, that's perfectly reasonable. Which is why the "never hit a woman" kneejerk reaction is off the mark.

I probably would have just smacked her on the shoulder after 2nd one.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Confession: I was with a woman when I was younger (this would be around the time of the Civil War), when she slapped me. Hard. I was completely surprised. I looked at her and asked, "What the **** was that about?"

She giggled and slapped me again. Hard. When she saw the look of shock and confusion on my face, she broke into full-out laughter.

Enough. I said, "Look, if you do that again I will hit you back."

She slapped my face again, just as hard as before. So I punched her in the gut.

She doubled over and began weeping, demanding to know what I had hit her. "Because you were ******* hitting me!" I said.

I probably should have just left, but it was in my own apartment, so I'm not sure where I would have gone.

There, now you know what a bad person the lemur is.

I wouldn't have hit her, but I can see why you did.

Unless a woman is armed with a deadly weapon I wouldn't strike her. In fact, even in that instance I'd probably twist her wrist and try not to break it.

Why did she slap you the first time?

[rotorgun]

I think that our aversion to hitting women stems from the Christian philosophy of "give honor to the woman, as the weaker vessel" etc. This was a core ideal as well of the Chivalric Code of the Middle ages. Let's face it guys, our mothers, with the willing cooperation of our fathers in a normal family scenario, teach us pretty early on that this is a taboo. I slapped out at my mother once after she had administered a well deserved blow for something that I said out of the way. I soon thought that the world was coming to an end!

It's referred to as Elephant Training by my wife, who so thoroughly intimidated both of our sons in their childhood years, that all she has to do now is raise her backhand to illicit immediate surrender. She is such a drill sergeant!

[Crazed Rabbit]

Hmm. I think Lemur's response was appropriate.

But you never hit first, nor hit them in response to one slap. One should be in danger of more than a little pain.

CR

[Lemur]

Why did she slap you the first time?

Based on the giggles and the laughter, apparently she thought it was funny. Which I supposed it would have been if she wasn't hitting so darn hard.

I certainly support the notion that a man should never, ever initiate violence with a woman. It's uncalled-for and unfair. But I can easily imagine situations in which self-defense would call for more than a gentle talking-down.

[ICantSpellDawg]

I'ts much more devastating to call them fat or ugly. You'd be suprised how sharp those 2 words are even to grown women.

If women are our equals and they pose some sort of a threat, I say annihilate; just as I would with a man who posed a threat. Name calling is less of a legal liability and more poignant, though. Political correctness ends where a woman thinks she has cart blanche.

There is almost no reason ever to hit the average woman or any woman that you are in a relationship with.

[rotorgun]

So I said to a red-neck, "What do ya say to a wumern with a black eye?"

He replied, "Nuthin', I toled her once alllllllready!"

PS: Just kiddin' ya'll!

[Major Robert Dump]

I lived with a woman once who would hit me when she got drunk or mad. I would have bruises a lot and people would ask me what happened and I would tell them I fell down the stairs. I was very ashamed of what was going on and terrified people would find out, but I loved her and knew she only beat me because she loved me, too.

But once the news got out the embarrassment sent me into a rage. I ordered pizza for dinner again because I was short on time, and when she came home from her job at the shipyard she yelled "Pizza for dinner again?" and chased me under the bed, dragged me out and beat me with a piece of broken wood that was once a chair until she hit me with it.

We were busted by my parents, who saw my bruises and then pointed out that my one-story apartment had no stairs. That night I went home and she was drunk and started hitting me so I kicked her in the nuts, had the police come arrest her and got her Harley towed the next day.

[Husar]

Confession: I was with a woman when I was younger (this would be around the time of the Civil War), when she slapped me. Hard. I was completely surprised. I looked at her and asked, "What the **** was that about?"

She giggled and slapped me again. Hard. When she saw the look of shock and confusion on my face, she broke into full-out laughter.

Enough. I said, "Look, if you do that again I will hit you back."

She slapped my face again, just as hard as before. So I punched her in the gut.

She doubled over and began weeping, demanding to know what I had hit her. "Because you were ******* hitting me!" I said.

I probably should have just left, but it was in my own apartment, so I'm not sure where I would have gone.

There, now you know what a bad person the lemur is.

She didn't wear black leather clothes and high heels, did she?

[Beskar]

I like the assumptions that all women are thin little defenceless sticks against a big burly-men. I mean, have you never thought of it possibly being more like this? -


That is the funny problem of it all. You are automatically assuming of it being big burly men versus weak women. It is this mindnumbing similar picture which is why domestic violence against men is the most under-reported crime as if it is ever brought up, it is seen as a weak woman dominating a man (a joke mental picture making fun of it), or the man's "boyfriend" doing it. Even the police have the same picture. It even goes into the same categories of male rape, where it is even classified as a "gay crime" (man against man) even though there are incidents of males being raped (usually young boys with a lot older aged woman.) Even high profile cases are seen as a "one-off" by such as Myra Hindley.

[Kadagar_AV]

I'm with Lemur on this one...

In my grown up life I have had 2 women hitting me (both "girlfriends" more or less).

First one was really hysterical, we actually broke up because she could not handle alcohol. I just blocked whatever she did untill she calmed down...



Second was sober-ish...

I did same as Lemur... After she hit me once I warned her... Second time I told her that if she repeated it I would hit her back. Third go around I gently pushed a finger against her solor plexus...

She didn't take the hint, so fourth time around I hit her rather hard (but not all out) in the solar plexus..

I watched her on the floor a few sec before I helped her up and gave her a glass of water... She never hit me again.

However, I'm kind of ashamed of it... She took it the right way, realised she had done wrong.... Most girls however would find a way to discredit the man.

So no, I wouldnt argue it is ever right to hit a woman... of course it might be RIGHT, it#s just not the logical thing to do as you might very well come out of the conflict in second place no matter what she did.

[Hosakawa Tito]

Confession: I was with a woman when I was younger (this would be around the time of the Civil War), when she slapped me. Hard. I was completely surprised. I looked at her and asked, "What the **** was that about?"

She giggled and slapped me again. Hard. When she saw the look of shock and confusion on my face, she broke into full-out laughter.

Enough. I said, "Look, if you do that again I will hit you back."

She slapped my face again, just as hard as before. So I punched her in the gut.

She doubled over and began weeping, demanding to know what I had hit her. "Because you were ******* hitting me!" I said.

I probably should have just left, but it was in my own apartment, so I'm not sure where I would have gone.

There, now you know what a bad person the lemur is.

Some guys pay good money for that....er...never mind.

It's never a good thing to hit a woman, but after the first unprovoked slap...well, if you want to be treated like a lady you better start acting like one.

[HoreTore]

Is it always a bad thing?

This is a very difficult subject. Something I always had a problem with is that it is socially acceptable for a woman to slap a man but if the man did the same thing then it isn't socially acceptable.

Naturally violence of all sorts is bad, and I don't plan to hit anybody at any time, but why is it so black and white that hitting a female is a heinous offense?

I like to hear your thoughts.

Thanks.

It's exactly the same as hitting a man - meaning it's bad. In all cases.

Violence should never be accepted.

yeah yeah, except self defense and all that, but you already knew that....

[Reverend Joe]

Confession: I was with a woman when I was younger (this would be around the time of the Civil War), when she slapped me. Hard. I was completely surprised. I looked at her and asked, "What the **** was that about?"

She giggled and slapped me again. Hard. When she saw the look of shock and confusion on my face, she broke into full-out laughter.

Enough. I said, "Look, if you do that again I will hit you back."

She slapped my face again, just as hard as before. So I punched her in the gut.

She doubled over and began weeping, demanding to know what I had hit her. "Because you were ******* hitting me!" I said.

I probably should have just left, but it was in my own apartment, so I'm not sure where I would have gone.

There, now you know what a bad person the lemur is.

To be honest, I would have personally slapped her right back, not punched her; I mean, a slap sure hurts, but an unexpected gut-shot is a real takedown. Not saying that your response was all that uncalled-for, though; I would have definitely responded after a couple of times and a warning.

[Don Corleone]

In my younger, wilder days, I dated a few wildcats like the ones described above. Towards the end of a bottle of tequilla, things could get interesting. One girl hit me with a baseball bat in my sleep.

I never hit any of them back. I'm not blaming anybody above that did, but surprise, surprise, I'm pretty old-school on this stuff. I have done worse things though....

One girl punched me in the jaw, knocking my jaw hinge out of alignment, because I called her an f-word-ing b-word, because she had cheated one me. Afterwards, she cried and apologized, but I wasn't feeling particulary forgiving for either offense....I grabbed her by both wrists, threw her out in the hallway and called her sister. When she came by the next morning to make up, her stuff was packed in the hallway. Never spoke to her again (though, I probably should at some point, I'm not sure if this story makes her look worse or me).

The one who hit me with the bat.... I called the cops and she went into custody for the evening. I went to the emergency room to get a couple of stitches. Turned out, she had some serious issues and wound up in a rehab (just for alcohol, no drugs), due to other bouts of alcohol induced violence.

I don't judge anybody who's acting in self-defense... Lemur, you did what you felt you had to. But I will say, that's the only way I could ever see hitting a woman as even remotely tolerable.