Quote Originally Posted by satalexton View Post
units with AP allows them to go toe to toe with heavy units in a moshpit fight. Outside of that, their advantages are moot. Note, getting engaged into a moshpit is a challange in it's own right, it's not always easy to survive the missles and pikes while closing in....

It's not that hard to get into a pike formation and "mosh pit" it. Just anchor it with a shield wall or heavy armor unit, then hit it from behind with your ap unit. I do this all the time with extraordinarii and they shred elite pikes units.