Difference between ver hard and hard?

[Chris1959]

The recomended and probably most used settings are VH Campaign, M Battles the unit stats are specifically designed for medium difficulty.
Personally I use M/M but I wanted a slow role play style campaign, currently at 10AD 4 years to go!
Next campaign I'll be more agressive so VH/M.

[lionhard]

: Europa Barbarorum is best played on Very Hard / Medium. The AI is aggressive (in particular the slave faction) but don’t get stat bonuses on the battlefield. If you want a real challenge try VH/VH but be aware enemy units on the battlefield are getting massive bonuses (afaik: +7 attack, +7 defence, and a huge morale boost), you could have your fullstack army is hacked to pieces by 5 units levies...


Does any 1 know what the statistics are for the AI in battle when played on hard mode? As i said before i used hard mode in battle because this is the first time iv played the romani in campaign and i wanted a realistic feel.

As said above in FAQ enemies get a huge bonus but tbh its normally made the battles more entertaining playing on v hard because thats how i played out all other campaigns iv completed so far.

I must say i have expanded fast and met no opposition so far playing as the romans in hard mode rebel cities have fell like flys.

If everyone reccomends playing in Very hard/ Very hard mode i supose ill have to restart my roman campaign :( Unless their is a way to change it?

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When playing camnpaign in very hard as romans will their be any negative effects such as good traits being hard to acheive and also will reforms happen as easily as if playing in very hard mode?

thx once again

[Cute Wolf]

I stick my battle difficulty on medium in EB, the morale problem will made any cavalry charge a nearly futile (at least very hard) attempt without slugging much casualities on themself, and hard forces me to rely on thorakitai hoplitai, becuse pantodapoi is really useless in that difficulty... It's a fun, but basically not real if u must defeat a roman stack made of princepes with a stack made of Hypaspistai...

About campaign difficulty, I recomend Very Hard on factions that allready large from the start, have economical (or at least early safety / military) advantage, and logically, everybody hate em, such as Romani, Karthadast, Arche Seleukeia, Ptolemaioi, and Sauro...
I recommend Hard on faction that start out with several difficulties, and historically made a friendlier approach with another factions, such as KH, Epeiros, Saka, Baktria, Casse, Aedui, Avernii, Sweboz.. etc

Playing VH with small faction is really funny, but nigh-impossible... I try playing saka in VH, and ends up with Pahlava, Baktria, and AS made alliance each other and gangbanged me... ; Tried as KH... works fine for the first turns, except suddenly a large kaboom of Ptolemaic, Pontos, and Avernii fleets land up in Hellas, made peace with Makedon, and start besieging every city in Hellas... at least, Seleukids, Ptolemaioi, Romaioi, and Karthadast have a good, stable income, and Sauro's land are very well isolated and easily defended...

That was my advice...

[Chris1959]

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Lionhard, as far as I know campaign difficulty has no direct impact on traits or reforms, except perhaps in fighting more battles and heroic victories etc.

[lionhard]

Ok well im gonna continue my campaign as romani on Hard / Hard any 1 who thinks i shudnt speak now

[Apázlinemjó]

Pontos and Hayasdan campaigns are nigh-impossible on VH/VH and quite hard on VH/M, so if you look for hardcore challenge and fighting for your survival in every turn, then that's your campaign. Although if you manage to survive the early turns you can build a big empire with ease.

[lionhard]

I already done the pontus campaign im doin romani now im at 260 BC, everyone seems to think i shud play campaign on very hard. If this is so is it possible to change after iv started?

[Slaists]

: Europa Barbarorum is best played on Very Hard / Medium. The AI is aggressive (in particular the slave faction) but don’t get stat bonuses on the battlefield. If you want a real challenge try VH/VH but be aware enemy units on the battlefield are getting massive bonuses (afaik: +7 attack, +7 defence, and a huge morale boost), you could have your fullstack army is hacked to pieces by 5 units levies...


Does any 1 know what the statistics are for the AI in battle when played on hard mode? As i said before i used hard mode in battle because this is the first time iv played the romani in campaign and i wanted a realistic feel.

As said above in FAQ enemies get a huge bonus but tbh its normally made the battles more entertaining playing on v hard because thats how i played out all other campaigns iv completed so far.

I must say i have expanded fast and met no opposition so far playing as the romans in hard mode rebel cities have fell like flys.

If everyone reccomends playing in Very hard/ Very hard mode i supose ill have to restart my roman campaign :( Unless their is a way to change it?

edit:

When playing camnpaign in very hard as romans will their be any negative effects such as good traits being hard to acheive and also will reforms happen as easily as if playing in very hard mode?

thx once again

Back in the day when vanilla RTW was played it was common understanding that

VH battle difficulty gives +7 to AI ATTACK (not defense) whereas
H gives +3 to AI ATTACK (not defense).
On top of that AI has undisclosed morale bonuses on H and VH.

Those bonuses are not impossible to beat; they just make flanking way more important on harder than medium difficulty battles. Nonetheless, these attack bonuses do screw up unit type balance and make it possible, for example, for the AI cavalry to beat spearmen in a head-on charge.

Note that the effects of H/VH battle are more unbalancing in the vanilla RTW than they are in EB 1.2 since the overall attack/defense values are considerably lower in the vanilla game. +7 attack is a whooping 140% boost to a unit that has base attack 5 (common in RTW) whereas it is only 39% boost to a unit that has base attack 18 (common in EB 1.2); add to that the fact that defense values are way higher in EB than in the vanilla.

[lionhard]

Very good point slaists.

[Andy1984]

If you want a real challenge playing as the romanoi, perhaps more important than the difference between H and VH, is giving your opponents the time to build up. If you allow the Aedui to develop their cities, they might put up a nice fight. I know because I lost quite a few full-stack armies there...

[lionhard]

Yeh iv waited a while now and the sweboz are building south they are almost in italy lol.

I went to take sicily but my advisor warned me its war with carthage so i backed off because i wanna let carthage build up so its a good challenge also trade with them is good.

So far i have counquered italy and just teched up im about to conquer boii and that other rebel settlement north of italy

[a completely inoffensive name]

Hard=Punching keyboard
Very Hard=Taking a blowtorch to your computer.