Europe

[Furunculus]

the org's favourite autarchic hyper-nationalist is off to forieg parts once again, no doubt to shout objectionable and racist things at johnny foreigner.

i mention this because it is almost the second anniversay of the ECR, and since we all expect it to collapse at any second i thought i'd go out with a hurrah!

so, while i am soaking up sun and icyy cold lager on the battlements of valletta i wish for you to consult among yourselves and come up with an excuse for why the predictions of ECR doom have not already come good..........

all the best.

[Kralizec]

Good for them, I suppose.

[Louis VI the Fat]

The ECR, that is the British Conservatives ruled by the Polish nationalists. Meanwhile the Poles have been decimated at home, as Cegorach was so kind to point out some time ago. This leaves the British Conservatives impotent, isolated, and in a fragile group in Europe.

A sad record for the Conservatives, who currently govern one of the three main European powers and who by default should be among the most influential political parties in Europe.

It is all a bit silly. Not much there to be triumphant about.

[Fragony]

The ECR, that is the British Conservatives ruled by the Polish nationalists. Meanwhile the Poles have been decimated at home, as Cegorach was so kind to point out some time ago. This leaves the British Conservatives impotent, isolated, and in a fragile group in Europe.

A sad record for the Conservatives, who currently govern one of the three main European powers and who by default should be among the most influential political parties in Europe.

It is all a bit silly. Not much there to be triumphant about.

Mwah looks like Le Pen is going to shake things up a bit, obviously no friend of the EUtopia, bet the aparatski seats are a bit sweaty, no France no unchecked Brussels

[Kralizec]

Come on Louis, the ECR has managed to continue its existence for two years. Surely that's an impressive achievement on their part.

[Furunculus]

Come on Louis, the ECR has managed to continue its existence for two years. Surely that's an impressive achievement on their part.

i very much agree.

on that note; who feels that the ECR would be supportive of the notion of eurozone fiscal federalism on the notion that it would shift public support in favour of an EEA/EU or EEA/EFTA referendum?

http://www.brugesgroup.com/EFTAorTheEU.pdf

[Beskar]

I have gone further and discovered more about definitions to explain my brand of European Federalism. The definition of Regionalism goes a long way to what I would see happen to the Nation States of Europe. They would dissolve into regions which are administrated locally but tied together in a federation at a European level which only deals with matter concerning the top-level, such as Foreign policy.

This would multiply the many states of Europe into local regions which various populace would like to manage themselves opposed to being completely managed by a bunch of random guys in Brussels so while we all embrace a European identity, we have our own local flavours and diversity which is part in making Europe so great.

[gaelic cowboy]

I have gone further and discovered more about definitions to explain my brand of European Federalism. The definition of Regionalism goes a long way to what I would see happen to the Nation States of Europe. They would dissolve into regions which are administrated locally but tied together in a federation at a European level which only deals with matter concerning the top-level, such as Foreign policy.

Naw we had that already here and it didnt work out too well

[Furunculus]

I have gone further and discovered more about definitions to explain my brand of European Federalism. The definition of Regionalism goes a long way to what I would see happen to the Nation States of Europe. They would dissolve into regions which are administrated locally but tied together in a federation at a European level which only deals with matter concerning the top-level, such as Foreign policy.

This would multiply the many states of Europe into local regions which various populace would like to manage themselves opposed to being completely managed by a bunch of random guys in Brussels so while we all embrace a European identity, we have our own local flavours and diversity which is part in making Europe so great.

regionalism is generally meant to apply to nation-states, with greater subsidiarity from within that unit, not to con/federations where there is no identity at all, and the attempt becomes one of manufacturing a new 'loose' euro identity.