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    Default Re: Dawn of a new EU - European Conservatives and Reformists Group springs into life

    Quote Originally Posted by Meneldil View Post
    Completely agreed. I find it kind of disturbing that most euroseptic parties/groups are always radicals. Neither the moderate left nor the moderate right achieved to give birth to a reasonable and respectable euroseptic movement.

    I personnally think the EU has a damn lot of flaws (though I'm all for an european confederation or federation), but the debate about the EU is nothing but a white/black oversimplified manicheism. You either have to support the EU or be against it, and there's at the moment no middle-ground. Not a single shade of grey.

    As for the party itself, I'm not surprised that Britishs and Poles form the largest part of it. I'm wondering why both countries begged so hard to enter the EU, but I'm also confident nobody could explain this.
    not radicals any more, the EPP in particular could not give birth to moderate (right-wing) EUro-skepticism because it is an explicitly pro-federal party.

    this probably results from so many national electorates being left without a mainstream party that campaigns on a EUro-skeptic ticket.

    i cannot speak for poland, but britain's choice results from its post-colonial/WW2/socialist hangover where the country perceived itself to be in a state of perpetual decline, and popularly dubbed as the "sick man of europe".
    Last edited by Furunculus; 06-22-2009 at 14:28.
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