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    Default Re: Dawn of a new EU - European Conservatives and Reformists Group springs into life

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    I am sorry to disappoint our member from Finland who maintains that 'Europe' is like a sacred cow and you're either for or against it. I regard it as the only chance to preserve our values and way of life, but if we want it to be just that, it needs a lot of reforming.
    Well in that case, maybe our most elusive member from Netherlands should be more open about political alliances whom are actually trying to reform EU and not condemn them before they have not even proposed anything. Also stereotyping whole countries in the process does not help.

    If we look at the last elections.Far right and populist parties gained more seats in the EU parliament. Maybe that should give a message that everything is not quite right in the glorious new States of Europe we are living in.
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    Default Re: Dawn of a new EU - European Conservatives and Reformists Group springs into life

    hear hear. well put.
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    Default Re: Dawn of a new EU - European Conservatives and Reformists Group springs into life

    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemusha View Post
    Well in that case, maybe our most elusive member from Netherlands should be more open about political alliances whom are actually trying to reform EU and not condemn them before they have not even proposed anything. Also stereotyping whole countries in the process does not help.

    If we look at the last elections.Far right and populist parties gained more seats in the EU parliament. Maybe that should give a message that everything is not quite right in the glorious new States of Europe we are living in.
    Our member from Finland seems to have trouble reading. I already discussed the programme of the new formation, I offered a partial explanation for certain phenomena without stereotyping anyone, and I already stated that not all is glorious in the state of EU.

    Mind you, the fact that far right parties gain seats could be a symptom of all sorts of things, including unresolved local issues that have nothing to do with Europe.
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