Europe

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I mean, we didn't jump in bed with America in two wars, fully support anything America says, even if it is just us and America. (See Lebanon war)

There isn't Trident with America having the codes for our own nuclear missiles which we paid for.

There isn't the countless references such as "Special Relationship" other musings.

Britain is a sovereign nation and made those choices of her own free will. It is as if you're comparing rape and consensual sex.

Now we just need the big lottery hand to come down from the sky and point going "or it could be you!"

The common person has a say in the European Union! How's that for a laugh...

What on earth are you on about? It is fact, now get over yourself.

American imperialism is only "fact" to a small segment of the population.

Then again, what do you even know about Britain

Evidently nothing, but seeing as I have another Brit agreeing with me who, according to polling, represents the majority of Britons, I fail to see your point.

and then again, being in Germany, aren't you even riddled with American bases all over your country?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ons_in_Germany

and yet you pretend that it means nothing?

I mean, having a foreign nations armed forces crawling all over your country has absolutely no influence at all, does it?

Of course it has meaning, but is the meaning that America is colonizing us or controls us in any way, shape, or form? Of course not. Have you ever, maybe, considered that American bases are in many of those countries at the invitation of the government of that country or not asked to leave because of benefits they bring? Do you think that America having a base somewhere results in control of that state? Really?

Furunculus' post is also excellent reading material...

Its not quite outright control... more of a loyal dog, occasionally does its own thing. Whereas in Europe we could be part of the foriegn polcy setting, rather than just going along with one dictated in America...

Britain has a choice now. Under a united Europe, it won't. Simple.

When people all live under one goverment they are the same ?!

Oh, so people aren't, in fact, the same? Thank you.