Quote Originally Posted by Default the Magyar View Post
Unforgiving, as in lets follow the U.S and reign in any of those idiots in the developing world who pose any sort of threat to us? Yeah sounds great, looking foreward to more Afghan type adevntures then are we? Pulling "our" weight, and "international affairs" so that translates as commiting acts of agression and U.S foreign policy...

A nation of shopkeepers sounds good to me, better than a nation of peace keepers, at least.
i cannot escape the impression that those who argue here for being a counterweight to the US, collective force etc, combined clout in the face of china and russia, are doing so because they fear the future, and despise what they consider their underdog past.

what they don't realise is that europe doesn't punch at its weight because europe isn't prepared to throw a punch, and its adversaries know this. this is not the lack of a unified army, it is a lack of will-power.