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    Sorry Louis, but that's wrong.
    Europe ought to ban pesky reporters and their meddlesome ways.
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    If no one can find purple spuds, it isn't Europe, it is called Market forces, aka, no one is buying them therefore they aren't sold, thus they aren't stocked.

    Apply for them at your local supermarket or greengrocers or even the town market.
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    If no one can find purple spuds, it isn't Europe, it is called Market forces, aka, no one is buying them therefore they aren't sold, thus they aren't stocked.
    Uhm.....

    Now, I may be thinking of a different shade of purple here, but.... One of the two most common potato versions here in Norway, is purple. At least what I would call purple.... Or maybe red or pink....
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    Europe ought to ban pesky reporters and their meddlesome ways.
    I know, I plead for it in my column every week. But somehow I have fallen into disrepute with the other leftist media that control this world, manipulate peoples' perceptions and force their slanted leftwing views on them.

    In other words, nobody listens.
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    nobody listens.
    Then stop with your use of sources, original sources, refusal of hearsay and long attention span in a bid to get to the bottom of things, you amateur.

    Aim for the holy grail of modern newspaper reporting: the column. Quick opinion over hard fact, custum build to fill the appetite of readers eager to get their existing opinion confirmed.
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    Then stop using sources, original sources, hearsay and a long attention span in a bid to get to the bottom of things, you amateur.

    Aim for the holy grail of modern newspaper reporting: the column. Quick opinion over hard fact, custum build to fill the appetite of readers eager to get their existing opinion confirmed.
    Like telling everyone that if there is even a slight curve in a cucumber, it won't be sold forced on us by the evil EU?
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    taters weren't regulated by Brussels to begin with.
    And you don't get subsidies or quotas for spuds

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    Then stop using sources, original sources, hearsay and a long attention span in a bid to get to the bottom of things, you amateur.
    Here I was thinking people wanted to be informed. How stoopid can you get?
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    http://www.euractiv.com/en/future-eu...article-183563

    "When the Irish people rejected the Lisbon treaty a year ago, the initial reactions ranged from one of shock to horror, to aghastness and temper and vexation," said McCreevy, the EU's internal market commissioner.

    "On the other hand, I think all the politicians of Europe would have known quite well that if a similar question had been put to their electorate in a referendum the answer in 95% of countries would have been 'no' as well," McCreevy told a meeting of accountants in Dublin.

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    To which I would like to add:

    This is not only an embarrasment to the UK conservatives. It is a situation of concern for the whole of the UK.

    One of the two largest political parties that represent UK interests in Europe, is now taken over by Polish nationalists.

    Who will see to British interests in Brussles?
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    Mr Kaminski admitted to The Daily Telegraph on Wednesday that he had been an NOP member but only under Communism, "between 1987 and 1989". "It was a time I am very proud of, when at the age of 15, I decided to become a member of the underground against the Communist dictatorship. At the time this was a patriotic youth organisation not anti-Semitic or Nazi," he said.
    Says it all, doesn't it? Let the man be, this is a big deal about nothing.

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    "It was a time I am very proud of, when at the age of 15, I decided to become a member of the underground against the Communist dictatorship. At the time this was a patriotic youth organisation not anti-Semitic or Nazi,"
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    Says it all, doesn't it? Let the man be, this is a big deal about nothing.
    "Someone who has not lived his life under dictatorship should very careful of accusing people who were in the anti-communist underground. I was brave enough to raise the banner."

    agreed EMFM, and i have a lot of sympathy with the above view, given that it is relevant to my own youth, and alien to most others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    To which I would like to add:

    This is not only an embarrasment to the UK conservatives. It is a situation of concern for the whole of the UK.

    One of the two largest political parties that represent UK interests in Europe, is now taken over by Polish nationalists.

    Who will see to British interests in Brussles?
    i'll decide what i find embarrassing thank you very much, and that was a notionally anti-federalist national party i supported sitting in a federalist european party.

    good, i'm a british (civic) nationalist, so i find that more than palatable.

    certainly not the EPP or the party labour sits within.
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    good article on the implications of the german constitutional ruling on lisbon, and how it may affect supra-national governance in future:
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/...636706,00.html
    OPINION
    The Future of European Democracy

    By Thomas Darnstädt

    Card-carrying Europeans reacted in dismay to a recent far-reaching ruling on the EU's Lisbon Treaty by Germany's Constitutional Court. But the judges have in fact done Europeans a huge service by tackling the issue of how democracy can work in the era of supranational institutions..................................
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    Well, it's only been running for over a decade and costing billions, but better late than never...

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    Default Re: Dawn of a new EU - European Conservatives and Reformists Group springs into life

    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    good article on the implications of the german constitutional ruling on lisbon, and how it may affect supra-national governance in future:
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/...636706,00.html
    A good article indeed on a splendid court decision.

    Needless to say, I was very happy that the German Constitutional Court ruled 'Lisbon' compatible with the German Constitution*. It was a tough hurdle to take. Even better was that the court also insisted on improving the democratic deficit. Bless the Germans and their obsession with democracy.

    Lisbon plus the demand that the national parliament demands and accepts its European responsibility sounds like a winning ticket. Perhaps, the German ruling will be a stimulus for pro-EU Irishmen with doubts about the democratic workings of the EU. Much of which are now being adressed in Germany, worthy of study by other nations.

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    The Lisbon Treaty verdict is a massive appeal -- no, order -- to the people's representatives to finally engage with European issues. "A lot of work and little recognition," is how Bundestag member Gunther Krichbaum once described his work on the Bundestag's European Union committee, which he chairs. Is that all that Europe means for German democracy?

    Card-carrying Europeans seem unanimous in the view that national legitimization of European decisions is impossible in the long run. A democracy consisting of 27 national parliaments would be too noisy, too slow and too nationalistic, they argue. But the Constitutional Court has neither ruled that political decisions by German government members who are on councils of ministers in Brussels need to be subject to approval by the Bundestag, nor ruled out further steps toward greater European integration. It is only trying to prevent the Bundestag from refusing to take responsibility for all these things.
    * The German constitution, from 1949, states that Germany wants to be an equal member of a unified Europe which works towards world peace.
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