Europe

[Furunculus]

Sop if its an evetry peopls thing then all the europeamns will have the same and you won't have any problem will you.
Hold on its a british thing , their 1000 years of culture bollox that you was on about. So the Irish with their 800 years of british culture bollox jut didn't get it ,leave aside al the covenaters jacobites and all that , the SNP don't get it either , let alone the sonsof Glendowyer...and bugger me sideway but why were half the places in kernow last week flying the cross of St.Piran.

To paraphrase the head of your Royle family ..."shared cultural values, world view, morals,social norms...my arse"

learn to read (and to spell), i said it is an every "peoples" thing, not an "everyone" thing.

[Tribesman]

learn to read (and to spell),

Learn that your arguement is bollox.
Come on Furunculus give us your version of values, culture, social norms, world view and morals that are British and see how many of the British posters on this forum have different versions.

[Adrian II]

Come on Furunculus give us your version of values, culture, social norms, world view and morals that are British and see how many of the British posters on this forum have different versions.

Wrong approach.

Give us your version of British values, culture, social norms, world view and morals and see ow many people from other countries adhere to them. Most of the western world hs become thoroughy middle-class in almost every respect.

I am a great fan of home exchanges. I have exchanged homes with Germans, Italians, Frenchmen and Poles. In every case, my counterparts had the same basic values that I have, and this applied to every neighbourhood where I came to live temporarily as well. Very instructive.

[Furunculus]

every nation has a broad world view that is shaped by their history.

the prudish brits recoil in horrified incomprehension that italy continues to vote berlusconi in as their leader.

the french maintain a deep suspicion of free booting anglo-saxon ways as well as 'their' foreign policy mechanisms (read: NATO).

the polish maintain a deep-seated fear of any neighbour that is bigger than them, which is why they respect defence alliances more than political alliances.

these few examples demonstrate different expectations, and obviously result from the shared history, culture and values of the peoples that exhibit these traits. it isn't rocket science.

i supported Britain's intervention in iraq, and i am glad Britain continues to provide military support to America, because i mostly agree with their view of the way the world should be, i doubt that any other large continental nations of old europe would show such willingness, and that is because they don't share so similar a world view. and that is fine, but don't expect me to rejoice at the prospect of governance from a group that strays further away from my own natural inclinations.

[Tribesman]

So you have just demnonstated that your world view which you claim British people share is completely at odds with the views of most Brits.
Well done

[Furunculus]

not at the time the war was launched:

http://pewglobal.org/reports/display.php?PageID=681:

Outside of Great Britain, the prospect of war in Iraq draws substantial # in many cases overwhelming # opposition. Among other U.S. allies, publics reject participating in a military coalition against Iraq by much wider margins. The Spanish oppose joining an allied military action against Iraq by more than six-to-one (81%-13%). Fewer than a quarter of Italians and Poles (17%, 21%) favor their governments joining the U.S. and other nations in taking military action against Iraq.

In Germany roughly a quarter (27%) favor military action, unchanged since November. In France, where just a third of respondents favored military action against Iraq in November, support for that option has dropped to 20%.

Support for military action was gauged in two ways. In Great Britain, Italy, Spain and Poland # the so-called "coalition of the willing" # respondents were asked whether they favored or opposed their country joining other allies in taking military action against Iraq. In France, Russia, Germany and Turkey # whose governments have ruled out such participation # respondents were asked their opinion of "the U.S. and other allies" using force against Iraq.

http://insidecostarica.com/dailynews...l/03/index.htm

UK public backing for Iraq war drops below 50 percent

British public support for the ongoing war in Iraq has fallen for the first time below 50 percent since the conflict broke out on March 20, according to a poll published by the Daily Mirror newspaper Thursday.

The GMTV poll showed that currently only 48 percent of the polled said they support war, while fewer than one in seven of them said they believe in U.S. President George W. Bush.

However, 78 percent of the polled said they do not want British troops brought home until the war is over, no matter how long it takes.

On Wednesday, a Daily Telegraph poll said 54 percent of Britons favored military action. But 56 percent feared Britain and the United States might get bogged down in a lengthy conflict.

British public support for the war on Iraq began to drop on Sunday when a survey found that Britons who believed it was right to take military action against Iraq went down to 54 percent from 59 percent on March 27, but higher than 50 percent on March 20, the day the war started.

The decline in public backing underlined a growing feeling among Britons that the war is "nothing like people felt they were led to expect," local analysts said.

http://pewglobal.org/reports/display.php?PageID=454

In France and Britain, support for a war to overthrow Saddam is lukewarm, with about as many supporting as opposing. In Germany and Italy on the other hand, sentiment is decidedly opposed with only 34 percent favoring and 57-59 percent opposing. In the U.S., Iraqi development of weapons of mass destruction is considered a very important reason for a military operation by 81 percent (up from 77 percent) compared with 83 percent for linking Iraq to the 9/11 attacks. In contrast, all four of the European publics surveyed felt that Iraqi development of weapons of mass destruction was the more important reason for war with Iraq: 67 to 55 percent in Britain, 49 to 45 percent in Italy, 57 to 44 percent in Germany, and 54 to 47 percent in France.

[Tribesman]

not at the time the war was launched:

Don't be silly, the preinvasion gallup poll for Britain (excluding NI) gave only 10% in favour of following the course that was taken.
!0% is not a majority opinion
Some nice data you posted there , more Brits said america was the problem than Germans did , and then the French had only half the German figure saying America was the problem . Though both France and Germany had more people than Britain saying Bush was the problem .