Europe

[Beskar]

Maybe the Guardian has the brains to realise that you cannot have a referendum on something you have already approved.

It is like eating your cake then voting afterwards whether or not you should eat it.

The news, if you end up with a no vote, then you are pretty much screwed over, as you can't uneat the cake.

I find it endlessly amusing that we, of all people, should clash on this: the French revolutionary, truest proponent of equality, fraternity, liberty and the wisest man on this forum, upholding the right of unelected elitists to trample over the Rights of Man in an unseemly rush to establish an empire of corporate governance for their playground - against the crusty Old World aristocrat steeped in estate and riches sucked from the people's very veins arguing for their right to be consulted, engaged and empowered.

There is the advantage though, since the Lisbon Treaty is not a Constitution, etc, etc, but can help unite people in Europe, everyone who was worried about Europe can all unite together to ensure a good Europe comes out of everything. Making changes from within the system.

Problem is, you need all the idiots to vote first and vote the right way. (Idiot = non-voter)