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    Oh dear, British mainstream political parties are once again implicated with the lunatic political fringes common amongst our continental neighbours. Silly tories, it's not as if you weren't warned!

    no wait, turns out is wasn't the tories, its labour, found to be in bed with crazy gypsie hating slovakian fruitcakes of Tito loving fame:
    http://conservativehome.blogs.com/ce...art-three.html
    Labour's unsavoury allies (part three)

    Pes The Party of the European Socialists Annual Congress in Prague has just voted to reinstate Slovakian Prime Minister Robert Fico’s Direction/Social Democracy (SMER) party to full membership of its trans-national political family.

    SMER was suspended from the PES in September 2006 for forming a governing coalition with Ján Slota’s far-right Slovak National Party - a group who make the membership of the BNP look like the audience of a Benjamin Zephaniah poetry recital in an Islington coffee shop.

    At the time, SMER were strongly criticised by PES President Poul Nyrup Rasmussen for failing to adhere to party rules demanding members "refrain from any form of political alliance or co-operation at all levels with any political party which incites or attempts to stir up racial or ethnic prejudices and racial hatred". The coalition remains in place today.

    The Slovak National Party's platform is fairly predictable ultra-nationalist stuff.

    Party leader Ján Slota appears to have a particular problem with Hungarians, declaring them a "tumour in the body of the Slovak nation" and "ugly, bow-legged, Mongoloid characters on disgusting horses". He has also charmingly declared that "we [Slovaks] will sit in our tanks and flatten Budapest" if ethnic Hungarians assert their authority in the Slovakia.

    Gypsies, Slota claims, should be dealt with in "a small courtyard and with a long whip" and refused to apologise for describing the Roma as "race who steal, rob and pilfer" on the grounds that "at least half of the nation think the same way".

    Slota has also praised the country's fascist dictator Jozef Tiso (hanged in 1945) as "one of the greatest sons of the Slovak nation" and dedicated a plaque to him whilst Mayor of the city of Zilina. Homosexuality, he argues, is equivalent to paedophilia.

    I could go on - but I think you get the picture.

    Is it really appropriate for the Labour Party to be aligned to political parties like SMER who remain in coalition with the likes of the Slovak National Party?

    > Labour's unsavoury allies - Part I and Part II
    how can this be? the party of european socialists (PES) , along with their publicly acceptable right wing counterparts the EPP, are surely among the blessed peoples, for they are euro-federalist and can thus do no wrong!

    i thought it was only swivel-eyed right-wing euro-skeptics who abused children, slapped mums around, and hung darkies from the nearest lamp-post?
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    He sounds like Borat, only with the unfortunate coincidence that he happens to be serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post
    He sounds like Borat, only with the unfortunate coincidence that he happens to be serious.
    is there a video somewhere?
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    Default Re: Dawn of a new EU - European Conservatives and Reformists Group springs into life

    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    Oh dear, British mainstream political parties are once again implicated with the lunatic political fringes common amongst our continental neighbours. Silly tories, it's not as if you weren't warned!

    no wait, turns out is wasn't the tories, its labour, found to be in bed with crazy gypsie hating slovakian fruitcakes of Tito loving fame:
    http://conservativehome.blogs.com/ce...art-three.html
    No offence, but Slovakia was never a part of Yugoslavia...



    From the second part of this text:

    Last but not least, we come to the Viktor Yanukovych's Party of the Regions (yes, he of vote-rigging, pro-Krelmin, anti-Orange Revolution fame). I do not need to remind ConHome readers that the tactics of Yanukovych's party during the disputed Presidential election were widely criticised by the British government with then Labour Foreign Secretary Jack Straw heaping criticism on their attempts to subvert the "democratic will of the Ukrainian people".
    The slight problem with that is noone else but the Tories found themselves in an alliance with Kremlin helping them to block a reform of the Council of Europe about a year ago.


    The lesson is - dig hard enough and you will find silly, even repulsing allies somewhere. That is the flaw of all-european coalitions.



    P.S. Personally I don't care what allies the British Conservatives are finding and where, but this part of the article was a bit one-sided, much like the entire nonsense with Kaminski* was.



    * Whome I consider lying, cheating bas..., but the campaign against him was still complete, disgusting nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cegorach View Post



    P.S. Personally I don't care what allies the British Conservatives are finding and where, but this part of the article was a bit one-sided, much like the entire nonsense with Kaminski* was.
    didn't you read the first 15 pages of non stop vituperation against the shocking bad sense displayed by the tories in leaving the 'mainstream' of euro politics, and how reprehensible any alternative to the EPP and PES would be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    didn't you read the first 15 pages of non stop vituperation against the shocking bad sense displayed by the tories in leaving the 'mainstream' of euro politics, and how reprehensible any alternative to the EPP and PES would be?
    I wasn't there and I don't need to, I've seen enought in the Guardian - sometimes even three articles a day for Christ's sake! Of utter nonsense I've observed with disbelief.



    IN my opinion Tories made a mistake and the Law of Justice is a failing party which is despised in Poland by 3/4 of voters. The good side is that thanks to their disgusting ideas and appearance the ruling Civic Platform scores stable 40%-60% points in every survey.

    The Law and Justice, may it rot in hell, has nothing to do with racism, neonazism or anti-semitism smearing campaign attributes to them otherwise they wouldn't score 5% elections.

    They are terrible semi-anarchic, ultra-centralised (at the same time) party with outdated, socialist economic ideas, nationalist-populist slogans, almost-communist language, semi-authoritarian traits and usually rude and noisy supporters which it is enough to earn my lifetime hatred.

    I don't need to manufacture silly arguments to treat them with greater contempt. If I ever did I would become like them and that thought is more than sobering.

    It is like an ice cold shower and I'd recommed it to anyone.

    Besides it is really not my problem. In a year the Law and Justice will lose the president (20% in popularity ratings - he will lose against anybody), in the spring they will lose local elections just like they did lose previous local elections, general electons and Euroelections.

    After that it will either fracture, fade and die or be pushed even further from the real politics.
    And so be it!

    If someone really has to represent populist-nationalist quasi-patriotism they can stay as long as they ramain the pariah of politics in Poland.
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    adapt or die, a motto equally appropriate for politics as it is for evolution.
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