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    Default Re: Dawn of a new EU - European Conservatives and Reformists Group springs into life

    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    i agree and concur that these are the problems faced, but that will not stop me advocating a political system that does its best to represent the will of the people.
    Honestly, I find it hard to seperate what you advocate from anarchy or government by plebiscite.

    Neither of which are at all guarantors of the stability you applaud. Stability has historicaly been maintained by the haves, and undermined by the have-nots (who would like to have, and thus have a jolly good -and unstable- upheaval during or as a result of their acquisition).

    If the UK has been stable as you assert, its because it was definitley not a plural and open society. Historicaly, the UK gave little and selectively enough to dampen social upheaval and maintain the staus-quo for the haves.

    The ruling parliaments of GB were cautious to learn from others' mistakes -as in the French revolution (which started as a power grab by middle class property owners, which GB celebrated as freedom from tyranny, and was co-opted by working class/artisans, which horrified the ruling class of GB).
    Last edited by al Roumi; 01-18-2010 at 18:55.

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