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    Default Re: Dawn of a new EU - European Conservatives and Reformists Group springs into life

    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    Seeing as no-one is going to listen to Hannan regardless of what faction he is in, he would say that.

    Now, the Eurocrats can ignore the Conservatives completely, thus saving the Union endless bureaucracy, meetings, consultation, haggling, debates, negotiations, rebates, Thatcherites etc, and continue with their job of building a European Super-State at peace.
    lol, i believe you will find that the sovereign nation-state hasn't died just yet!

    and that is a strange statement seeing as Hannan appears to be a driving force in the tory manifesto:
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/da...gn-revolution/
    Conservative manifesto: David Cameron proposes a benign revolution

    By Daniel Hannan Politics Last updated: April 13th, 2010

    It’s happened: The Plan has taken form as the Tory manifesto. Elected police chiefs, local and national referendums, fewer quangos, fewer MPs, recall mechanisms, a thorough clean-up of Westminster expenses, a curtailment of Crown Prerogative powers, more rights for backbenchers, parental choice in education, more power for local government. Hurrah! In fact, I’ll go futher. Calloo, callay!

    The Conservative Party’s prescriptions are based on an accurate diagnosis of what has gone wrong:

    The top-down model of power that exists in Britain today is completely out of date. The argument that has applied for well over a century – that in every area of life we need people at the centre to make sense of the world for us and take decisions on our behalf – has collapsed. We now live in an age when technology can put information that was previously held by a few into the hands of the many. This is an age of personal freedom and choice, when culture and debate are shaped by a multitude of voices. But politics has not caught up with this new age. Instead of giving people more power over their lives, we have a government intent on taking it away.

    As Paul Goodman observes: “It’s Hannan and Carswell as well as Cameron and Hilton”.

    Of course, there’s a lot more to the Tory manifesto than direct democracy. It’s main emphasis is – quite rightly – on reducing Britain’s crippling debt. But its essential premises – that government is too remote, that ministers should seek to devolve power rather than snatching at the levers of state control, that reform comes from below, that politicians don’t have all the answers, that we should all get involved - are spot on.

    This is a revolutionary manifesto. I use the word advisedly: this programme would amount to a turning of the wheel, a setting upright of that which has been placed on its head, so that the state becomes once again the servant of the citizen rather than the other way around. Don’t take my word for it: read the manifesto.
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    in other news, the EU destroys English cricket bat industry:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...of-willow.html

    :p

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    and could it be germany that leaves the euro first?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/f...-from-EMU.html
    Last edited by Furunculus; 04-16-2010 at 11:48.
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