Quote Originally Posted by Lord Yunson View Post
Id like to see CA provide a savegame with no Human player where one of the AI nations is actually going to win the game.

I dont believe the AI in ETW is actually capable of winning or completing a game - this is how it plays out - none of the AI nations actually looks like winning - they mearly are there to try and impede the human player.

In Civ4bts - the AI can and often does win defeating you and the other AI nations.

There appears to be inherent design flaws here (and has been since STW) basically the AI was never actually programmed to win/complete the game but to provide a challenge for the human to win against

prove me wrong

I dont think the ETW AI can win its own game with/without a human

and if this is the case... then the game will never provide a challenge for a human, because its not trying to compete its just trying to obstruct

how many years and they have not been able to get their heads around this fundamental concept


first make a game where the computer can complete the game and win its objectives, then add room for a person

what sort of a challenge can a AI put up that cant even win its own game where it sets the rules

Actually, what a lot of these TW games start to feel like is one of those really predictable novels. You start off weak or wimpy, but you know, that somewhere down the line you are going to win. On the way there are certain "challenges" which you will have to endure on your way to greatness. And frankly, it gets kind of boring after a while. That's the great thing about Civ 4 is, as you say, you don't really gonna know what's gonna happen. Going into a game, you usually have no idea if you're gonna win. You could be the most powerful nation in the game, and still lose to a cheesy cultural win, or AP/UN win. It's frustrating, but it's what keeps people coming back and playing the same games over and over and over again.