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    Saka are getting finally some love, an elite model got finished: http://bit.ly/jaJhgn http://bit.ly/llHpK2 http://bit.ly/ls7GQL ~Tux
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbin View Post
    There are actually depiction of horses with that type of headgear in battle, so we know it was used during combat.
    Maybe I'm a little bit late, but could you possibly share those pictorial sources/point us to the respective publications? I'm well aware that the wooden Pazyryk trappings show rather intensive 'wear and tear', but have never seen so far an really conclusive proof of their use in battle proper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lvcretivs View Post
    could you possibly share those pictorial sources/point us to the respective publications? I'm well aware that the wooden Pazyryk trappings show rather intensive 'wear and tear', but have never seen so far an really conclusive proof of their use in battle proper.
    Well, here are just some of the pictures from the unit concepting thread, chosen somewhat at random (there were about twice as many pertaining to the horses alone; then more still pertaining to the other elements such as the pickaxes):

    https://img718.imageshack.us/g/45186990.jpg/

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    Addendum: I was not the original creator of the aforementioned unit concepting thread and know nothing about Saka history; I just happen to have come across your post and thought I would answer it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Am Herenow View Post
    Well, here are just some of the pictures from the unit concepting thread, chosen somewhat at random (there were about twice as many pertaining to the horses alone; then more still pertaining to the other elements such as the pickaxes):

    https://img718.imageshack.us/g/45186990.jpg/

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    Addendum: I was not the original creator of the aforementioned unit concepting thread and know nothing about Saka history; I just happen to have come across your post and thought I would answer it.
    Thank you for your prompt response - I already knew Rudenko's excellent reconstructions of the Pazyryk finds (the first two and the last picture) and there's no doubt to the historical authenticity of such elaborate horse trappings in the EB period, but this curious Greek archaic amphora/hydria really puzzles me - is it from some Osprey volume? There are some rather weird iconographic aspects which make it IMHO rather unsuitable for an interpretation as depiction of such trappings in battle (naked scythians/steppe nomads using slings, their rather goat-like mounts...) and I would love to know more about this specific pictorial source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nazgool View Post
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    so who could that be?
    and eastern from where?
    does sound like an eastern celtic unit *ponder*
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    Galatian Wildmen :DD

    tho it also works for the karians(the unit)
    or an arabian unit, OR Ethiopians
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightermedic View Post
    so who could that be?
    and eastern from where?
    does sound like an eastern celtic unit *ponder*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Putt
    Galatian Wildmen :DD

    tho it also works for the karians(the unit)
    or an arabian unit, OR Ethiopians
    Since Moros has being talking about great changes in the arabic peninsula I'll put my bet in something like that.
    Ethiopians would be cool but since there is the culture limit I gess theire only be there as regionals like in EB1..........................
    Last edited by LusitanianWolf; 05-30-2011 at 14:07.



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    Quote Originally Posted by fightermedic View Post
    so who could that be?
    and eastern from where?
    or something from areas to the East from Black Sea who knows...
    Last edited by zurab; 05-30-2011 at 14:21.

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