Most boring faction to play as

**Moros** · 06-23-2009, 03:20

Saba, boring!?
Who said that!?

**Ibrahim** · 06-23-2009, 04:14

Originally Posted by Moros

Saba, boring!?
Who said that!?

well, it is boring..at least early on. but it certainly isn't the most boring.

problem is the lack of funds. I'm playing it right now, and I had to disband my army 5 times now to keep it all afloat.

but it gets fun once you conquer 4 settlements.

say, how on earth does one train those elephants? I know you can get them in saba, from africa... I think its type III or IV, but I'm not sure

**Aemilius Paulus** · 06-23-2009, 04:46

Originally Posted by Moros

Saba, boring!?
Who said that!?

I did

. Everyone knows that. Which is why Saba was and is on the top of that EB II thread which basically asks which EB faction least deserves its place IOHO (in our humble opinion).

But, I do remember you saying that Saba will be revamped in EBII, with many new units.

**Moros** · 06-24-2009, 02:06

Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus

I did

. Everyone knows that. Which is why Saba was and is on the top of that EB II thread which basically asks which EB faction least deserves its place IOHO (in our humble opinion).

But, I do remember you saying that Saba will be revamped in EBII, with many new units.

Yes. It will gain a few strong factional units but especially a lot of regionals. I'd expect EBII to have more than 20 arab units.
Also actually I must agree saba is boring even though the campaign 'an sich'would be very promising, well content wise it is. But that's because a lot never got made or finished. Either way as I will work on EBII's saba I'll have automatically extra content than could possibly be made into a small patch for EBI. And I'm also be helping AtB with fleshing out the Sabaeans more.

I'll only be content if Saba and the rest of Arbia in it's whole get represented as good as any other faction and region, and showing people that saba diserves a slot. Also I think I'll be very succesfull in making saba and arabia interesting, and hopefully set certain people to love this sadly forgotten, disregarded and neglected part of history.

**DaciaJC** · 06-24-2009, 02:28

I started a Sab'yn campaign yesterday, and I'm having a blast. Their position is somewhat regrettable, and it's clear that there is still work to be done, but playing as Saba is far from boring, in my opinion.

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 06-24-2009, 05:42

Re: Saba
Though I knew very little about them when I started, I tried to fill in as much as I could (outside of the units themselves, which I had no part in) to make them feel more interesting, like their ritual banquet building tree and the ritual hunts and festivals, their temples, their ethnicity traits, a few unique buildings for the region, their own unique looking spies and diplomats on the campaign map, etc. For a the last faction we added and one so different from the rest, I think we did a fairly good job with them. I'll also admit that I pretty freely took a lot from a few of the best academic works that I could find on them. I do wish we could have found someone or a group who would let us use some appropriate traditional music, but TPC's eastern songs help out for sure. Someone filling in like that is necessary when the big proponents of a new faction vanish. I did talk with some phd students who were working on the Sabaeans, but none would agree to help us (though Jean-Francois Breton himself did give a little in the way of advice and some leads).

**Moros** · 06-24-2009, 19:10

Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou

Re: Saba
Though I knew very little about them when I started, I tried to fill in as much as I could (outside of the units themselves, which I had no part in) to make them feel more interesting, like their ritual banquet building tree and the ritual hunts and festivals, their temples, their ethnicity traits, a few unique buildings for the region, their own unique looking spies and diplomats on the campaign map, etc. For a the last faction we added and one so different from the rest, I think we did a fairly good job with them. I'll also admit that I pretty freely took a lot from a few of the best academic works that I could find on them. I do wish we could have found someone or a group who would let us use some appropriate traditional music, but TPC's eastern songs help out for sure. Someone filling in like that is necessary when the big proponents of a new faction vanish. I did talk with some phd students who were working on the Sabaeans, but none would agree to help us (though Jean-Francois Breton himself did give a little in the way of advice and some leads).

TA: nobody blames you. You did a terrific job at making the saby'n as they are, after VC and Qwerty stopped working on them. It's just that content wise and work wise, they are much behind the other factions. They barely have any unique traits and stuff. I'm really happy you were able to even get them in a more than playable state.
Also you had feeback from Breton? I know you used one of his books, which I've real as well, but I never knew you actually contacted him and that he responded!? Could you pm me what he said or something, as I'd really be interested to know what he shared with you?

**Apázlinemjó** · 06-24-2009, 19:39

The Saba campaign is good, when you like to roleplay and build up a strong economy. The only sad thing about them, that you can't field good "native" army.

**satalexton** · 06-24-2009, 02:51

Oh joy, the more to join the service of Arche Makedonia =D

Oh Fatherland of Glory,
Vergina sun shines bright!
Sons of Alexandros,
All Hail Makedonia!!