Neda...

[PanzerJaeger]

Small protests, not so small from what I've heard of but what can you be sure of in mullah-land. They should understand that there is no greater force than people desiring individual freedom, these bearded pricks can't win the die has been cast. If it isn't now it's soon, this is not going to end unlesss these bearded pricks kill everyone, good luck doing that.

I wish I could agree, but I believe instinctual self preservation far outweighs the desire for freedom for the vast majority of people. Neda wasn't the symbol for a revolt, she was the best argument against it. Once the government started using live ammunition, once the people saw poor girls like her dying on the street, the green revolution fell apart. As long as the mullahs control the weapons, they will be able to maintain their grip on power. That's why many Americans are so adamant about our gun rights.

We need to be funneling weapons and support to anti-government forces. Hell, it's the least we can do to return the favor they've been doing for us in Iraq and Afghanistan for years.

[Fragony]

They can be arrested at any time, in prison they will be tortured and raped male or female, this is one sick regime. Yet these people are still fighting, I think I would have accepted for being opressed by now, I think I would be a coward. These people aren't scared of anything, and they have so much to lose. Who's going to stop them if such sadistic barbarism can't scare them of? The real islamic revolution is on it's way, this is going to end exactly where it started, and no Islamist will have any legitimacy when condemning us in the west anymore.

[Tuuvi]

We need to be funneling weapons and support to anti-government forces. Hell, it's the least we can do to return the favor they've been doing for us in Iraq and Afghanistan for years.

I'm not well versed in modern history but it seems to me that violent revolutions in our time just don't have the same success rate as they did in the 1700's.I think a Ghandi style revolution in Iran would be preferable and much more successful in the long run than a violent one.

[Fragony]

I'm not well versed in modern history but it seems to me that violent revolutions in our time just don't have the same success rate as they did in the 1700's.I think a Ghandi style revolution in Iran would be preferable and much more successful in the long run than a violent one.

Agreed, peaceful protest is the way to go. Let these bearded jerks act like the vicious dogs that they are raping and torturing is all they understand, more innocent people will have to be raped and tortured before this is over, c'est ca. Pretty frustrating but they are on their own, my initial sentiment is invade the and do harm to them personallybut that isn't very productive in the long run. There comes a point when even for the violent the violence becomes unbearable, they will have to keep killing their own, these people already lost. They know that they have a plane fueled and ready 24/7, it should be able to haul beard and take of to Syria in 20 minutes at all times.

[Hax]

but that isn't very productive in the long run.

This is what it's all about, and it's exactly why I agree with Fragony in the first case.

[Fragony]

Isn't going to work if nobody writes about it, where the hell is the so-called quality journalism, too busy hiding with a telelens in some Israeli bush waiting for a jew to fart I guess. These hypocrites, whorenalists.


A bit crass, this. Doesn't break any rules but isn't the best use of "The King's," so everyone try to spin up the quality level, okay?

[Subotan]

Is that Western journalists, Frag?

[Fragony]

Is that Western journalists, Frag?

Yes absolutely, showed the docu you posted to a friend of mine, he was in absolute shock he had no idea that this was going on, never even heard of poor little Neda. He's no idiot, nobody told him. Neda means voice no? Kinda pointless in a vaccuum.

[Subotan]

We need to be funneling weapons and support to anti-government forces. Hell, it's the least we can do to return the favor they've been doing for us in Iraq and Afghanistan for years.

The Iranian government derives a lot of it's legitimacy from anti-American nationalism, and the ability to stand up to a West plotting to hurt the Iranian people. Funneling weapons to the Green movement will neither advance the goals of the Green movement nor weaken the Iranian Government's propaganda.