Immigration issues(part 2)...

[Fragony]

In short: assuming you are right, what is your solution for the problem?

Let's start by containing the problem, a full immigration stop. After that, I have no idea, we will just have to make the best out of it.

Now on to these figures of yours.
They say that the vast majority of immigrants work and that even more are entering the workforce.
They also state that the vast majority of immigrants are not on benefits.
So that puts paid to your "average immigrant" nonsense.
So on to your "non-western immigrants"...oh it says the same there too.
You really do have a reading problem don't you
Perhaps you should follow Adrians advice and try an abortion topic instead as your blindness makes it too easy to rip your posts apart when it comes to immigration.

Not my figures, tear apart the CBS instead, knowing the CBS they will be grateful.

[Andres]

Let's start by containing the problem, a full immigration stop. After that, I have no idea, we will just have to make the best out of it.

And how will you organise this "full immigration stop" in concreto?

[Tribesman]

Not my figures, tear apart the CBS instead

Well of course they are not your figures , as your figures are mythical.
If they were indeed your figures in the link then they would say what you claimed.
As was said in the other topic

what you say makes no sense at all

[Tribesman]

not according to a report from the Lords Economic Affairs Committee:

So you have the Lords saying one thing and the Home Office and Treasury saying another

In the UK, Home Office research suggests that immigrants pay £2.5bn more in taxes than they take in benefits.

And the Treasury estimates that the economic growth rate has been boosted by a quarter-point because of immigration.

[Andres]

Sorry, it's in Dutch.

Immigration is good for Belgium.

Immigratie is goed voor België

BRUSSEL - (Belga) Het Belgisch nationaal inkomen stijgt als gevolg van de immigratie. Dat blijkt uit een studie van ING, zo schrijft L'Echo woensdag. Het nationaal inkomen van de hele Europese Unie zal volgens ING door de immigratie stijgen met 12,18 miljard euro, waarvan 9,4 miljard euro in de eurozone.

Voor België rekent ING op een gemiddelde stijging van het nationaal inkomen met 100 miljoen euro. Indien men de toekomst zeer optimistisch bekijkt, kan dat cijfer zelfs stijgen tot 560 miljoen euro. Hoewel de economische impact van de immigratie positief is, blijven de economische voordelen beperkt. Anders gezegd kan de immigratie niet aanzien worden als een wondermiddel voor onze economie, aldus nog ING. (lim)

Crappy translation:

Immigration causes the Belgian national income to increase. This results from a study made by ING. National income of the EU will increase with 12,18 billion euro (where from 9,4 billion in the Euro zone) due to immigration, according to ING.
For Belgium, ING counts on an increase of the national income with 100 million euro. The most optimistic models even predict an increase with 560 million euro. Allthough the economic impact of immigration is positive, the advantages are limited. Immigration should not be seen as a miraculous cure for our economy, says ING.

Critical note:
- the fact that the national income increases, does not necessarily mean that the income per capita increases. In other words: you have more income, but you also have more people. I'm not very familiar with statistics, but does an increase of the national income automatically implies an increase in welfare per capita?

But at first sight, saying that "immigrants cost us money and don't give any economic benefits" seems not entirely true.

[Furunculus]

So you have the Lords saying one thing and the Home Office and Treasury saying another

maybe that discrepancy is because the HO/T puts it in the limited terms of benefits claimed, which neglects totally the extra cost-burden of immigrants use of public facilities?

[Fragony]

And how will you organise this "full immigration stop" in concreto?

Simply by not allowing it? And what is here can stay here, and hen we can start treating them like people instead of a project. Why does nobody ever consider the cruelty of false promises. What the do these lefties expect from these people, that they suddenly can function in a society that is a few centuries ahead?

If they were indeed your figures in the link then they would say what you claimed.
As was said in the other topic

I am taking the time to respond, I however am not going to take the time to validate my claim because I already know you will ignore it. It's all yours, don't spend it on candy, doesn't really matter what you think anyway my goldenboy's political prosecution had exactly the effect I said it would have, we are the biggest party now, step aside.