Amusing ourselves to death

**Strike For The South** · 07-06-2009, 17:07

I don't really know what your on about other than trying to pump yourself up as the lone freedom fighter in a sea of unwashed peasants.

We gained our freedom when 90% of the country was illeterate and lacked formal schooling. So were going to lose it now?

**Lord Winter** · 07-07-2009, 19:56

Yet the enlightenment was an elitist movement. Yes, this was the ideal but you can't start preaching the end of the world just because we fail to live up to our utopias.

**Ariovistus Maximus** · 07-08-2009, 07:13

Originally Posted by Lord Winter

Yet the enlightenment was an elitist movement. Yes, this was the ideal but you can't start preaching the end of the world just because we fail to live up to our utopias.

No we can't, but wouldn't it make sense to try and make it better?

Yes, it could be worse. So what? It could be better!

It's not the end of the world. Who said it was? So how about we work on it a bit?

You will also see in the cycle of history the following:

Generation A suffers from poverty, lack of education, or the like. So when they become old enough to do something about it, they will work extremely hard to pull themselves out of the problem.

After an incredible amount of effort (often social upheaval or even war), these people will establish themselves, making a life much better than what they had before.

Having reached this point by their own hard work, they have the skills and diligence to KEEP the things they earn.

Then they die. Their hard-earned possessions are passed to their kids, generation B. Now, their kids didn't get the wealth for themselves, but they have had a solid upbringing and have lived through a few hard times too.

So then they die, and pass their not-so-hard-earned possessions to THEIR kids. Now, generation B wanted their kids to have AAALLL the things they DIDN'T have when they were kids. So they give all this stuff to generation C.

Generation C hasn't had to work for any of it. They just had it passed to them. So they think it grows on trees. Of course, as they get older, they learn a few things about that.

But they die and pass it on to generation D. Now, generation D is SOOO far off from the original generation that did all the work, and they have had everything handed to them on a silver platter. So they become proud, wasteful and abusive of those less fortunate.

So much so that the lower class of society suffers from poverty, poor education, and the like. (Sound familiar?) And the cycle begins again.

See what I'm saying here? Thus, society tends to degenerate. So I suggest we work out a few things.

**Lord Winter** · 07-08-2009, 08:01

Name one generation which was significantly better then ours. Why so?

By resorting to this idealistic nihilism you are ignoring the successes that we have achieved in this time. A black man is president when 50 years ago he couldn't vote, the fact that we even consider the poor and minorities is a giant step forward. Instead of proclaiming the downfall of the west, why not try to address the wrongs you see in the world? Progress is not made by looking back on some non existent golden age, or even looking at the present. True progress only looks at the possibilities of the future.