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    I think VH/VH is fine, but I agree with TC, under those conditions we don't need to up the AI's purse. If your concern is the AI will still be disadvantaged, we can always operate with smaller stacks and weaker units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnightnDay View Post
    ... we can always operate with smaller stacks and weaker units.
    I think that would be really hard to pull off in the game. In KotR, players tended not to like my proposals for half stack or "historical" armies - such restrictions are tedious to enforce and it's human nature not to be want to be handicapped. With a gamesmaster and events, there is a little more scope - the cataclysm made some people fight with awful armies, but the cataclysm was a major effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by econ21 View Post
    I think that would be really hard to pull off in the game. In KotR, players tended not to like my proposals for half stack or "historical" armies - such restrictions are tedious to enforce and it's human nature not to be want to be handicapped. With a gamesmaster and events, there is a little more scope - the cataclysm made some people fight with awful armies, but the cataclysm was a major effort.
    Hey now, I hope you're not referring to Becker's Bohemian Militia.

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    I actually meant to have the game played at VH/VH...

    I don't mind taking control of enemy factions during war but am wary about the supposed problems of turning them back to AI control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cecil XIX View Post
    Hey now, I hope you're not referring to Becker's Bohemian Militia.
    Yeah, TC was really mean to poor old Becker. But at least he survived to leave the game in style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by econ21 View Post
    Yeah, TC was really mean to poor old Becker. But at least he survived to leave the game in style.
    Not that mean, at least he gave me a guy who could turn one of my spear militia into armored sergeants each turn.

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    One very minor issue I have been thinking of is how we describe the game turns in character.

    Apparently, the mod has 1.5 years per turn but saying "next 1.5 years, I will attack X" sounds weird.

    We had a similar issue in KotR - I ended up using the word "turn", so an edict might say "for five turns" - but "turn" is a very OOC and immersion breaking term.

    I don't think we can use year as synonymous with turn, as in the bottom right hand corner of the interface, we will have the year shown and it will not increment with turns.

    I am wondering about "season" as a more in character term. "Next season, I will attack X" or "Edict: the Chancellor will tread water for 10 seasons" etc. It does not sound too bad. I know a "season" may be more literally a quarter of a year, but I am thinking about a "campaign season", which is how you could regard a total war turn.

    For some purposes, we could use years - "Dietrich built watch towers for 15 years" when we mean 10 turns. But often it will be more convenient to count in turns and when we do that season might be as a good a term as any.

    What do people think? Turns? Seasons? Anyone got any better ideas?

    BTW: I guess characters are still aging two years a turn in this mod? so our ages increment in a way that is out of sync with the game year but we can live with that.

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    Following the discussion in this forum reminds me of a couple forest and tree metaphors. Many players here may have more refined tastes but this is looking really convoluted. The only immersion I'm concerned about is how the interaction in the forum affects the play in the game. Turns, years, what does it matter? I'm happy if it's kept simple.
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