KOTF OOC Thread

**AussieGiant** · 08-12-2009, 21:49

Hi Zim,

Just a thought for you and the rest.

Having the option in the Seneschal vote as "I abstain" seems a little strange, especially considering how many people have made that selection.

Perhaps it might be better to remove it in future.

**Zim** · 08-12-2009, 22:07

It's mostly so I can keep of the number of people who have voted or definitely plan not to. I suppose I can stick solely to the the legislation poll (with its abstain choice) nextime for purposes of considering activity.

How is it strange ion comparison to abstaining from voting for legislation? Without it I assume those people just wouldn't vote in that poll

**TinCow** · 08-12-2009, 22:27

The abstain option is important for measuring 'activity'. Without an abstain vote, we wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a person who was active, but didn't want to pick, and a person who is AWOL. Since there are consequences in the rules for missing votes, it is necessary to make this distinction.

**AussieGiant** · 08-12-2009, 22:32

Originally Posted by TinCow

The abstain option is important for measuring 'activity'. Without an abstain vote, we wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a person who was active, but didn't want to pick, and a person who is AWOL. Since there are consequences in the rules for missing votes, it is necessary to make this distinction.

Ah, understood.

It just seems a little strange to see everyone taking a position in the legislation voting but sitting on the fence in the Seneschal vote.

I really don't want to see 10 abstains and then 4 and 6 votes for the loser and winner...that ridiculous.

**Zim** · 08-12-2009, 22:37

Living in America, that seems about right to me for a major election.

Originally Posted by AussieGiant

Ah, understood.

It just seems a little strange to see everyone taking a position in the legislation voting but sitting on the fence in the Seneschal vote.

I really don't want to see 10 abstains and then 4 and 6 votes for the loser and winner...that ridiculous.

**AussieGiant** · 08-13-2009, 07:40

Originally Posted by Zim

Living in America, that seems about right to me for a major election.

That's kind of what I would like to avoid actually.

**Zim** · 08-13-2009, 08:20

Eh, I just put "abstain" as a choice so people could prove activity without being forced to make a choice. There could also be political ramifications for choosing to abstain (someone who abstains may be making a statement about the candidates. At the very least they can't say they just forgot or didn't get a chance to vote, so they could earn the ire of a candidate that thought they were a supporter).

I'm not going to force people to vote, although if anyone really wants to do so I'd accept an amendment doing so (it would have to have IC consequences, though, and I'd have to find another way to prove activity for those who prefer not to vote).

Originally Posted by AussieGiant

That's kind of what I would like to avoid actually.