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Originally Posted by HoreTore:
That's the proper way for a political party to function.
I vote for my party, and what they've stated as their values, ideology, what they will do, etc etc in their party program and principle program. I wish to see them doing exactly that, exactly what I gave them my vote to do. I do not want some retard to screw that up. If "Party A" said they'd do "Thing B" if they got elected, then I want to see that done if they get elected, I don't want "Retard Member C" to screw it up, thus making a mockery of my vote.
The goal of a political party is to unite those of similar political opinions in order to have greater impact in the political process. It is not to promote and enforce a rigid dogma for all to follow without consideration of any and all outside thinking. That's the proper way for a political party to function.
I vote for my party, and what they've stated as their values, ideology, what they will do, etc etc in their party program and principle program. I wish to see them doing exactly that, exactly what I gave them my vote to do. I do not want some retard to screw that up. If "Party A" said they'd do "Thing B" if they got elected, then I want to see that done if they get elected, I don't want "Retard Member C" to screw it up, thus making a mockery of my vote.
You choose the representative (your so called Retard Member C) to act on his own to make policy choices on your behalf, you nor the party has any control over his views, only whether or not to accept him as your representative. He was accepted, his actions were frowned upon by the party, deal with it by not accepting him for another term, don't attempt to enslave his mind to your will or the will of the party.
Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name:
The goal of a political party is to unite those of similar political opinions in order to have greater impact in the political process. It is not to promote and enforce a rigid dogma for all to follow without consideration of any and all outside thinking.
You choose the representative (your so called Retard Member C) to act on his own to make policy choices on your behalf, you nor the party has any control over his views, only whether or not to accept him as your representative. He was accepted, his actions were frowned upon by the party, deal with it by not accepting him for another term, don't attempt to enslave his mind to your will or the will of the party.
Nonsense!The goal of a political party is to unite those of similar political opinions in order to have greater impact in the political process. It is not to promote and enforce a rigid dogma for all to follow without consideration of any and all outside thinking.
You choose the representative (your so called Retard Member C) to act on his own to make policy choices on your behalf, you nor the party has any control over his views, only whether or not to accept him as your representative. He was accepted, his actions were frowned upon by the party, deal with it by not accepting him for another term, don't attempt to enslave his mind to your will or the will of the party.
I have never in my life had the opportunity to "elect my representative"(no such thing exists), but I have had the chance to vote for my party. I've never voted on a single person, I've always voted on that body of people called the Socialist Left-party. Hence, I want the MP's to act on behalf of Socialist Left's party platform for the period 2005-2009(and the government platform it resulted in), I do not want them to act on their own whims.
Two different systems. While it may make sense for you, it doesn't in a federation style state like the U.S.
EDIT: Once again ACIN posts before I can hit the submit button.
EDIT: Once again ACIN posts before I can hit the submit button.
Originally Posted by Lord Winter:
Two different systems. While it may make sense for you, it doesn't in a federation style state like the U.S.
....Which is why you heathen yanks should realize that we europeans are superior beings of extraordinary intelligence and ability, and you should submit to our rule immediately. Two different systems. While it may make sense for you, it doesn't in a federation style state like the U.S.
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
....Which is why you heathen yanks should realize that we europeans are superior beings of extraordinary intelligence and ability, and you should submit to our rule immediately.
Of course, it will only be a matter of time before the United States wakes up and stops personally choosing who will fill what position and instead chooses which idealistic group to make the decisions for us. ....Which is why you heathen yanks should realize that we europeans are superior beings of extraordinary intelligence and ability, and you should submit to our rule immediately.
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Could be worse, our vice president who can't be bothered to work on sundays even when the roof is falling down actually managed to point out that some secular elements in society are just as dangerous as terrorism.
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Originally Posted by HoreTore:
....Which is why you heathen yanks should realize that we europeans are superior beings of extraordinary intelligence and ability, and you should submit to our rule immediately.
PR system is fundamentally stupid and only such government needs improving.....Which is why you heathen yanks should realize that we europeans are superior beings of extraordinary intelligence and ability, and you should submit to our rule immediately.
Systems in Europe are the United Kingdom and I believe that Ireland has the same system, except they have alternative vote and RON implemented as well. MP is in a sense, is a local administrator, who oversees the area you are voting in.
(Comment about UK doesn't refer to the House of Lords or Monarchy)
As for comments against Direct Democracy, I recommend looking at the Switzerland system. The combination of the above processes along side direct democracy as counter-balances is indeed, a superior system. This prevents the government from getting away without consulting the people and this stops the people doing spur of the moment which would bring great reprecussions.
Hah, the terror part kicks in when the incumbent realizes he might get kicked off the gravy train and have to actually work for a living...
Originally Posted by HoreTore:
Nonsense!
I have never in my life had the opportunity to "elect my representative"(no such thing exists), but I have had the chance to vote for my party. I've never voted on a single person, I've always voted on that body of people called the Socialist Left-party. Hence, I want the MP's to act on behalf of Socialist Left's party platform for the period 2005-2009(and the government platform it resulted in), I do not want them to act on their own whims.
Well you must forgive me, the OP was about the California and the United States government, which I am sure has a different process then in your country of Norway. I seem to have assumed that we were both talking about the way things are done in America or more specifically the State of California, I am sure parties work much differently in your country then in mine.Nonsense!
I have never in my life had the opportunity to "elect my representative"(no such thing exists), but I have had the chance to vote for my party. I've never voted on a single person, I've always voted on that body of people called the Socialist Left-party. Hence, I want the MP's to act on behalf of Socialist Left's party platform for the period 2005-2009(and the government platform it resulted in), I do not want them to act on their own whims.
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