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    Default Re: Recruiting elites in EB2.

    Quote Originally Posted by tls5669 View Post
    Whats the difference in Rome running around in 217BC with about 20 Legions? So I have five or six armies of elites, if I can afford them, why not?
    Because Rome was able to raise an army of that size in the late 3rd century BC, but it was beyond the capacity of any ancient people, kingdom, or empire to raise an army consisting entirely of elites.
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    EB 1 was if anything too easy on attaining elites. The cost of elite units in your military is much higher than that of levies. Not just in terms of the sheer amounts of money it takes to keep them in the field; also in terms of `power'.

    First of all, these men represent and/or wield substantial power and influence within the politics of their faction. Simply put: shifting the burden of military responisbility too much to those who are able to claim something in exchange afterwards is a hughe risk. Calling upon the aid of a warlord means owing the man a favour. Giving an overly ambitious noble the command of an army means risking an ursurpation of your own power.

    Secondly calling upon influential but loyal members of the nobility means that you lose much of your influence-by-proxy where they come from. That is if you have someone exceedingly loyal to you in charge of a distant Satrapy with a people that is otherwise not inclined to obey your rule... Calling upon that man to join your army with his own forces leaves your Satrapy exposed to revolt. Furthermore if he is an able governor you have to make do with lesser men to occupy administrative roles. That may earn you a lot of issues too.
    Last edited by Tellos Athenaios; 07-03-2009 at 17:32.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atilius View Post
    Because Rome was able to raise an army of that size in the late 3rd century BC, but it was beyond the capacity of any ancient people, kingdom, or empire to raise an army consisting entirely of elites.

    I never said once that my entire army was elites, I have about 13 or so armies only five are elite, and not even the whole army is, Carthage doesnt have access to an elite archer unit, peltast unit, I dont know if the SB calvary is an elite, I dont have them in my armies, I couldnt afford them at the time, so Ive just stuck with what I have, the Liby-Phoenician Cavalry (Im not a very good calvary commander anyway).

    My "elite" armies usually consist of 6 units of either Elite Liby-Phoenician Infantry or Sacred Band Infantry as the front lines. One of them had a couple Elite African Infantry units. Thats it, it isnt like im playing AS, every freaking unit they have is elite. Believe me I know, AS just declared war on me the other night (I ran Egypt out of Africa). Im scared of them a little, theve got some nasty units.
    Last edited by tls5669; 07-03-2009 at 17:38.

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