That Cold Winter [Concluded]

[Beskar]

(He is very good lynch-bait)

No, that's me.

Sorry to say this, but two dead players are convinced it is you and the case against Yaropolk is pretty bad. I think the best decision for the town is to follow this strong suspicion of two members who ahd their lives taken.

[Tratorix]

No, that's me.

Sorry to say this, but two dead players are convinced it is you and the case against Yaropolk is pretty bad. I think the best decision for the town is to follow this strong suspicion of two members who ahd their lives taken.

Why? Its not particularly down to WE and Yaropolk. There's no reason to jump on the first bandwagon that forms, that's how the town lost W&F's game.

Vote: Diana Abnoba I personally don't see why White eyes would attack Reenk and Khaan if half the people here know he would do that.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I did not know he would do that.......

[Beskar]

The first bandwagon would be against Yarapolk and as you already see, he has the most votes. I doubt it is Yarapolk and just because he is the Mafia in another game, it could now mean he could even be a detective or the doctor and him getting lynched just because he was the Mafia in the other game would be a stupid mistake.

However, both Khaan and Reenk Roink are convinced it is White_Eyes:D and he hasn't denied it. It could be the case that the dead players are correct.

Also, your vote for Diana Abnoba is a pure WIFOM. It would be like if I was in the game and I was Mafia and YLC was in the game. I could kill him, but then, he would nag all game saying I purposefully killed him and because of that, I could get lynched, on the other hand, I could keep him alive and in the end game situation, he would turn everyone against me. Either way, would you find it suspicious if White_Eyes:D purposely kept Reenk and Khaan alive for that very purpose?

[Tratorix]

The first bandwagon would be against Yarapolk and as you already see, he has the most votes. I doubt it is Yarapolk and just because he is the Mafia in another game, it could now mean he could even be a detective or the doctor and him getting lynched just because he was the Mafia in the other game would be a stupid mistake.

However, both Khaan and Reenk Roink are convinced it is White_Eyes:D and he hasn't denied it. It could be the case that the dead players are correct.

Also, your vote for Diana Abnoba is a pure WIFOM. It would be like if I was in the game and I was Mafia and YLC was in the game. I could kill him, but then, he would nag all game saying I purposefully killed him and because of that, I could get lynched, on the other hand, I could keep him alive and in the end game situation, he would turn everyone against me. Either way, would you find it suspicious if White_Eyes:D purposely kept Reenk and Khaan alive for that very purpose?

I voted for Diana because I don't like the logic of "WE would kill these people, they died, he is guilty". It's just as much WIFOM as you say the logic for my vote is. It wouldn't be hard for someone to kill them and get a bandwagon started on WE for this very reason.

Also, just because Reenk and Khaan are dead, doesn't mean they have any more information than we do. They are probably working from the same assumption as Diana..

[Beskar]

I voted for Diana because I don't like the logic of "WE would kill these people, they died, he is guilty". It's just as much WIFOM as you say the logic for my vote is. It wouldn't be hard for someone to kill them and get a bandwagon started on WE for this very reason.

Also, just because Reenk and Khaan are dead, doesn't mean they have any more information than we do. They are probably working from the same assumption as Diana..

True, but White_Eyes:D isn't denying the fact either. It would be poetry for him to be Mafia and win the game and him boasting "I was caught out on first round and I surrived, awesomesauce".

[Tratorix]

True, but White_Eyes:D isn't denying the fact either. It would be poetry for him to be Mafia and win the game and him boasting "I was caught out on first round and I surrived, awesomesauce".

So, he's not denying that he would think about killing Reenk and Khaan first, and if we don't lynch him now he might say I told you so later? I don't buy it. This isn't set in stone, if we get toward the end of the round and don't have a clear target, lynch WE's. But, saying he is the best lynch right now just helps create a handy bandwagon for the mafia to hide behind.

[Diana Abnoba]

@ Beskar, Reenk and Khaan;

I agree, that is what I'm going with, that same logic.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

could someone give me a crash course on why Whiteyes would kill Reenk?

[White_eyes:D]

could someone give me a crash course on why Whiteyes would kill Reenk?

IDK.....both me and Reenk go way back....he is like my Rival, friend and mentor when it comes to Mafia....plus he and I think alike.....so he thinks that if I were Mafia and he were townie...I would kill him in an instant... (Which I might....but it has been awhile.....I missed him....so killing him is not what I would have done.....LYNCHING him....now that's poetry..)

[atheotes]

IDK.....both me and Reenk go way back....he is like my Rival, friend and mentor when it comes to Mafia....plus he and I think alike.....so he thinks that if I were Mafia and he were townie...I would kill him in an instant... (Which I might....but it has been awhile.....I missed him....so killing him is not what I would have done.....LYNCHING him....now that's poetry..)

that explains Reenk's suspicions... but what about khaan? he also seems so convinced.

[Captain Blackadder]

Yeah that write up is not my style my style in fillet royale was to do it like a gothic horror piece whereas the one at the start just seems to me to be more short and to the point.

Random org tells me

Vote Atheotes

[White_eyes:D]

No, that's me.

Sorry to say this, but two dead players are convinced it is you and the case against Yaropolk is pretty bad. I think the best decision for the town is to follow this strong suspicion of two members who ahd their lives taken.

Yaropolk won the last TWO large games by lurking in the shadows and winning... Ichigo knows it must be him....both he and I were lynched....while he was laughing in the background...You were even against it....

Also, the ghosts of people wanting a revenge make it easy for two Mafia to bandwagon that person and the others will just follow.

SEE

[Beskar]

Yaropolk won the last TWO large games by lurking in the shadows and winning... Ichigo knows it must be him....both he and I were lynched....while he was laughing in the background...You were even against it....

But Yarapolk is not lurking, infact he was even the opening post. Him making that first post just placed him right onto the firing line and the Mafia could easily vote for Yarapolk using that same exact logic you are using, it also tops it up that you are just voting for Yarapolk because some one else did.

As for revenge of the dead ghosts, I had a strong gut feeling that Lord Winter was the killer, while a lesser one on Yarapolk. It turned out that Lord Winter was the killer. If anything, my gut feeling is telling me that Yarapolk is most likely innocent or a pro-town role as for some reason, I have the feeling that lynching him is a bad idea.

On the other hand, no offence, I have no real gut feelings about you, so gut feeling that some one is innocent then the other accusation about some one who I don't have the same gut feeling about, I think it is a safer risk to lynch you.

[White_eyes:D]

But Yarapolk is not lurking, infact he was even the opening post. Him making that first post just placed him right onto the firing line and the Mafia could easily vote for Yarapolk using that same exact logic you are using, it also tops it up that you are just voting for Yarapolk because some one else did.

1) I voted for Yaropolk first...

2) You stink of desperation..... FOS:Beskar

[Beskar]

1) I voted for Yaropolk first...

2) You stink of desperation..... FOS:Beskar

1) No you didn't, Centurion1 did.

2) FOS:White_Eyes:D for lying. But to counter your claim, trying to save "another Mafia" is utterly retarded as it only exposes you, it is simple Mafia 101.

[White_eyes:D]

Unvote:Yaropolk Vote:Beskar see we need a tally......I had no idea he was in the lead....

[Beskar]

You changed your vote because you just got caught out lying?

Why you so defensive, White_Eyes:D ?

[Tratorix]

Tally


Yaropolk (2): Centurion1, Ichigo
White Eyes (2): Beskar, Diana Abnoba
Diana Abnoba (1): Tratorix
Whiskers (1): White Eyes

[White_eyes:D]

But to counter your claim, trying to save "another Mafia" is utterly retarded as it only exposes you, it is simple Mafia 101.

So basically I exposed my scum Buddy? Good work Beskar *Only good if Mafia*

[Beskar]

So basically I exposed my scum Buddy? Good work Beskar *Only good if Mafia*

?

I called you out on your lying, so you changed your vote against me. It says enough about your case to execute you. You lie and cheat the town to try to get things your way. If you can lie about who even voted for Yarapolk first, you can easily lie saying you didn't kill those two, even though you said if you was Mafia, you would do. Too much of a coincidence, murderer.

[Yaropolk]

Yaropolk won the last TWO large games by lurking in the shadows and winning... Ichigo knows it must be him....both he and I were lynched....while he was laughing in the background...You were even against it.... SEE

Yes, I just scapegoated both of you guys in Ugg, but that's not a reason to take it out on me. I was mafia there, it was my job. Take a look at my posts in Asterix and in Rubicon. In both cases I was an innocent townie and posted an organizational strategy in the first few rounds. In both cases I was killed by mafia almost immediately. I am trying that now again. If there is no discussion, the lurkers win.

[White_eyes:D]

Yes, I just scapegoated both of you guys in Ugg, but that's not a reason to take it out on me. I was mafia there, it was my job. Take a look at my posts in Asterix and in Rubicon. In both cases I was an innocent townie and posted an organizational strategy in the first few rounds. In both cases I was killed by mafia almost immediately. I am trying that now again. If there is no discussion, the lurkers win.

First time you've been under any pressure as Mafia..... (I know your not acting like your townie self)

@Khaan: He thinks the first person he suspects is Mafia.... Look at what happened to Poor TinCow in Godfather 3.....gave me and Beefy the Perfect cover....

[A Very Super Market]

Did someone say lurkers?

Vote: AVSM

[seireikhaan]

First time you've been under any pressure as Mafia..... (I know your not acting like your townie self)

@Khaan: He thinks the first person he suspects is Mafia.... Look at what happened to Poor TinCow in Godfather 3.....gave me and Beefy the Perfect cover....

Now I know you're mafia.

Everyone lynch White_eyes:D. Immediately.

[Centurion1]

The presentation against white eyes is simply bull. I dont like youre reasons, the key here is to not have a pattern. plus his denials have a ring of truth to it.

Beskar on the other hand is being praticallary desperate to cover for someone.... not changing my vote just yet but im looking closely

P.S. Why else would Beskar try to shift exposure off of Yaro unless they were mafia?

[Beskar]

P.S. Why else would Beskar try to shift exposure off of Yaro unless they were mafia?

That is fricking dumb. In this game, the Mafia get two kills regardless of how many in the game, if I was Mafia and Yaropolk was my partner, I would want him dead if he was going to get lynched, I wouldn't try to save him at all. Risk dying or get to have two kills instead of one. Not a hard choice.

As I said, gut feeling that Yaropolk is not Mafia. Usually, my gut feelings are correct, for example, Ichigo in Swords of the Moon, Lord Winter in the Ugg game, YLC in Futrama Mafia. In all those cases, they were the Mafia, in two of them, the town were morons and lynched me instead of them, thus losing the game to the Mafia and the time I managed to convince the town, we actually won.

It what I call Cassandra. Is saying that I got a strong feeling that Yaropolk is not guilty a bad thing? Go and kill him, and if he turns out to be a town, or even worse, a pro-town, I request you eat your own hat for being a fool.

Also, Ichigo did an obvious bandwagon vote, he didn't deny it either.

[Yaropolk]

First time you've been under any pressure as Mafia..... (I know your not acting like your townie self)

Go look at the second to last round of Ugg that just finished. Greyblades spent 2 days pushing for my lynch. Any pressure I am under right now is entirely of my making. If I didn't post first then I would have lurked through the first few rounds with minimal posts like a good mafia ought to do.

I urge everyone again to reconsider Ichigo's actions. He pushed in a scummy bandwagon vote on me, and when I pointed it out, responded with a lolcatz defense.

[Centurion1]

Im not feeeling Ichigo and that wasnt really a bandwagon vote. There were some posts after i believe that refuted my claim, so he took it into consideration and choose you.

Does anyone know the tally as of right now?