The Black Country [Concluded]

**Beefy187** · 07-23-2009, 07:19

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

And so therefore you would recommend lynching one of Death is Yonder or johnhughthom, since you don't want option 2 (cleared as innocent by investigation) or option 1 (yourself and pever).

Since Trat was cleared by atheotes and they either guessed correctly or investigated me and cleared me, that means team 2 is innocent and therefore murder bait. Whoever remains from team 2 has to decide between team 1 and team 3 for the lynch, since it is likely the teams will vote together and tie it up.

It is a shame Blackadder isn't here, because we could use the extra vote for margin of error. The fact is, with 2 mafia remaining we do not have a chance to guess incorrectly this next round. That's all folks.

Correct. In fact I nominate my self for the first lynch

EDIT: Sorry I misread it. I'm fine with getting one from team 1 lynched. We still have 2 more rounds yes?

**Askthepizzaguy** · 07-23-2009, 07:21

Originally Posted by Beefy187

Correct. In fact I nominate my self for the first lynch

That is a suicidal strategy no matter which team you play for. If you're indeed a townie, that means you're intentionally allowing the mafia to win the game because that removes your vote and allows another murder.

I'm half tempted to actually listen to you and vote for you for suggesting that. That sounds like a gaffe, intended to be WIFOM but not thought through properly.

**Beefy187** · 07-23-2009, 07:24

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

That is a suicidal strategy no matter which team you play for. If you're indeed a townie, that means you're intentionally allowing the mafia to win the game because that removes your vote and allows another murder.

I'm half tempted to actually listen to you and vote for you for suggesting that. That sounds like a gaffe, intended to be WIFOM but not thought through properly.

If I turn out innocent, then pever is innocent as I say.

we just lynch DIY and John as lynching one mafia will buy us a extra turn.
This plan will succeed. Unless in the event of WoG of pever being guilty.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 07-23-2009, 07:33

All right; it is just that if you turn out innocent it is too late to save anyone because we needed your vote. We don't have two rounds if two mafia remain; it is already 5 townies 2 mafia at best, and at least 1 townie dies tonight, giving us the dreaded 4-2. If we fail to lynch a mafia on the next turn, that is 3-2 going into night phase and the end game is 2-2 townies lose automatically.

That is why you have to be very careful what you suggest; that vote yourself first strategy can only be a gaffe or a bluff, because no matter what side you're on, you lose the game. You're a smart guy Beefy and I think you would make a mistaken suggestion like that out of nervousness due to the pressure of being scrutinized and having to come up with a townie-perspective solution to the endgame at the same time.

EVERYONE has to vote the same way next round, no matter what; because if the townies are divided, we automatically lose due to the number of votes. We need to decide which way to vote and all vote that way, pevergreen included. I hope he can be serious for the final round; as I said I haven't found his contributions helpful so far, merely distracting and harmful. I am still tempted to follow my own gut and go for the Beefy/pevergreen combo starting with pevergreen just on principle. As it appears I may be a swing vote next round, I HIGHLY advise the townies to put their thinking caps on, analyze the thread, and for the love of PETE, give a solid argument as to why I should vote your way.

Beefy and pever, you have your work cut out for you. I'd rather not lose this game as I tend to think of the mafia as being very on the ball and aware of more than what the townies are. THAT is perhaps the only reason why I am leaning towards john or DIY; because you and pever have made some serious errors, which is not something I think you both would do if you were mafia at this late stage of the game.

Townies need to tighten up on this last round, that's all I'm saying. Please forgive my criticism, but unless we pull it together, starting right now, we lose and it is our own fault.

**pevergreen** · 07-23-2009, 08:21

Im blue. Da ba de da bu dai.

**Death is yonder** · 07-23-2009, 08:26

the town might have just lost this one... i was voted for lurking and that was my fault ... but after i explained John and DIY never came here to have a chance to change their votes. so it was easy for beefy and pever to get me lynched..

Sorry

I have exams in like, 1 and a half week, I don't really pay attention to the stuff I write recently

This means the most likely suspects are johnhughthom and Death is Yonder, if I were to believe you were a townie. Which makes sense because they were also responsible for the atheotes lynch after I suggested how silly it was to vote for Blackadder.

I would simply like to say that if it comes down to voting between two of us, I think you know where 2 votes already go

Just up to the rest of you to decide whether you think John or me has been more scummy.

I leave my fate in the town's hands.

But naturally, me and john would probably vote each other.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 07-23-2009, 09:19

Originally Posted by Death is yonder

But naturally, me and john would probably vote each other.

ORLY?

That makes things AWFULLY simple for me, because that means it's pretty much impossible to lynch Beefy or pevergreen who seem to have formed a voting bloc. Which means if you guys are both town, we lose.

**Beefy187** · 07-23-2009, 09:16

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

All right; it is just that if you turn out innocent it is too late to save anyone because we needed your vote. We don't have two rounds if two mafia remain; it is already 5 townies 2 mafia at best, and at least 1 townie dies tonight, giving us the dreaded 4-2. If we fail to lynch a mafia on the next turn, that is 3-2 going into night phase and the end game is 2-2 townies lose automatically.

That is why you have to be very careful what you suggest; that vote yourself first strategy can only be a gaffe or a bluff, because no matter what side you're on, you lose the game. You're a smart guy Beefy and I think you would make a mistaken suggestion like that out of nervousness due to the pressure of being scrutinized and having to come up with a townie-perspective solution to the endgame at the same time.

EVERYONE has to vote the same way next round, no matter what; because if the townies are divided, we automatically lose due to the number of votes. We need to decide which way to vote and all vote that way, pevergreen included. I hope he can be serious for the final round; as I said I haven't found his contributions helpful so far, merely distracting and harmful. I am still tempted to follow my own gut and go for the Beefy/pevergreen combo starting with pevergreen just on principle. As it appears I may be a swing vote next round, I HIGHLY advise the townies to put their thinking caps on, analyze the thread, and for the love of PETE, give a solid argument as to why I should vote your way.

Beefy and pever, you have your work cut out for you. I'd rather not lose this game as I tend to think of the mafia as being very on the ball and aware of more than what the townies are. THAT is perhaps the only reason why I am leaning towards john or DIY; because you and pever have made some serious errors, which is not something I think you both would do if you were mafia at this late stage of the game.

Townies need to tighten up on this last round, that's all I'm saying. Please forgive my criticism, but unless we pull it together, starting right now, we lose and it is our own fault.

Silly me, I thought we have 7 and forgot about the night kills.
Forget what I said please