Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Results 61 to 78 of 78

Thread: Makedonian Schutzstaffel

  1. #61
    Member Member seienchin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    588
    Blog Entries
    2

    Default Re: Makedonian Schutzstaffel

    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman View Post
    To a reasonably large degree nonsense, actually. The SS were above all well-motivated, but not particularly exceptionally trained for the most part; not compared to say the paras or mountain troops...
    Hey someone who knows more about the SS than mere fairy tails.
    They always had higher casualty rates than other units and didnt fight very clever.
    The mythos of the elite fierce german SS elite has 3 roots.
    First of all:
    Hitler, off course, wanted them to be seen as an elite force, so german media etc. showed it that way and allies copied that believe.
    Second:
    In the later stages of the war, when the allies finally fought against the germans in europe the SS had nearly all of the modern german panzer equipment making their atacks far more terrifying than the atacks of the Wehrmacht. Nevertheless they failed in the battle of the bulge (II. Ardenne offensive) in any imaginable way.
    And last but not least:
    Esspecialy in the west the Wehrmacht will to fight any longer was really low in 1945 while the SS continued fighting to the end. Same in the battle of Berlin in the east. Making them a symbol of fierce german defensive in germany.

    So in conclusion:
    If the 10 makedons were overhyped units with high casualties they were like the SS... But still its a terrible thing to say.

  2. #62
    Member Member Macilrille's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Posts
    1,592

    Default Re: Makedonian Schutzstaffel

    I will not repeat myself so...

    Look a up a bit for another post by me clarifying things a bit, though this should not actually be a thread on the SS, but on the weirdness of Autoresolve.

    In fact, never Autoresolve.

    A related problem is the reinforcements that come pouring in with no sense, sacrificing themselves even more idiotically than the AI against you when you manually fight a battle where the reinforcement army has a FM. Even if you click that you do not want the AI to control it. I find that severely frustrating and it sometimes makes me WD from battles. Anyone else tried that?
    'For months Augustus let hair and beard grow and occasionally banged his head against the walls whilst shouting; "Quinctillius Varus, give me my legions back"' -Sueton, Augustus.

    "Deliver us oh God, from the fury of the Norsemen", French prayer, 9th century.
    Ask gi'r klask! ask-vikingekampgruppe.dk

    Balloon count: 13

  3. #63
    Ming the Merciless is my idol Senior Member Watchman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Helsinki, Finland
    Posts
    7,967

    Default Re: Makedonian Schutzstaffel

    Incidentally, didn't campaign difficulty level affect autoresolve...? Not that you should use it anyway, since it's wont to inflict quite a bit of unnecessary casualties on your army.

    Anyway, the issue with reinforcements is AFAIK fairly well known. For example, if you've already turned off the AI control of the reinforcement army and then view the enemy army, AI control will be turned back on yet the tick doesn't show. Just to make sure I for one always turning on and off several times before starting the battle to ensure the dumb engine got the message...
    Hasn't failed thus far.
    "Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."

    -Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

  4. #64

    Default Re: Makedonian Schutzstaffel

    Rome shall burn, my brothers
    And the sun will shine like a flower of freedom!



  5. #65

    Default Re: Makedonian Schutzstaffel

    Quote Originally Posted by Alsatia View Post
    .....

    What is it with these macedonian fanatics???
    Why cannot you be quiet about Macedonia??
    Quare nequeo graeci consum amicus ut romani?

    Rome has Pella, the "great city" of Macedonia, the bithplace of "Megas" Alexandros, and (Rome) is probably gonna push Macedonia into Galatia or into oblivion (prefer the latter). then again, macedonians may keep the romans at bay by blocking them off the peleponnese or halfway down attica
    I guess you sir dont want to see a picture of my ongoing Epeirote campaign!


  6. #66
    Member Member Macilrille's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Posts
    1,592

    Default Re: Makedonian Schutzstaffel

    And I suggest you read my comment to sata elsewhere. It goes for you as well.

    Edited to add the link https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...96#post2284196
    Last edited by Macilrille; 07-11-2009 at 03:11.
    'For months Augustus let hair and beard grow and occasionally banged his head against the walls whilst shouting; "Quinctillius Varus, give me my legions back"' -Sueton, Augustus.

    "Deliver us oh God, from the fury of the Norsemen", French prayer, 9th century.
    Ask gi'r klask! ask-vikingekampgruppe.dk

    Balloon count: 13

  7. #67

    Default Re: Makedonian Schutzstaffel

    Good job!
    One day you can write a book about us


  8. #68
    Near East TW Mod Leader Member Cute Wolf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    In ancient Middle East, driving Assyrian war machines...
    Posts
    3,991
    Blog Entries
    2

    Default Re: Makedonian Schutzstaffel

    Jebivatar!!! DONT POST PICS NEEDLESSLY!!!

    You ruin my fragile (and low bandwith) connection!!!!

    BTW... nice pics

    My Projects : * Near East Total War * Nusantara Total War * Assyria Total War *
    * Watch the mind-blowing game : My Little Ponies : The Mafia Game!!! *

    Also known as SPIKE in TWC

  9. #69
    EB annoying hornet Member bovi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Norway
    Posts
    11,796

    Default Re: Makedonian Schutzstaffel



    On topic guys.

    Having problems getting EB2 to run? Try these solutions.
    ================
    I do NOT answer PM requests for help with EB. Ask in a new help thread in the tech help forum.
    ================
    I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image. - Stephen Hawking

  10. #70
    Member Member Macilrille's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Posts
    1,592

    Default Re: Makedonian Schutzstaffel

    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman View Post
    Incidentally, didn't campaign difficulty level affect autoresolve...? Not that you should use it anyway, since it's wont to inflict quite a bit of unnecessary casualties on your army.

    Anyway, the issue with reinforcements is AFAIK fairly well known. For example, if you've already turned off the AI control of the reinforcement army and then view the enemy army, AI control will be turned back on yet the tick doesn't show. Just to make sure I for one always turning on and off several times before starting the battle to ensure the dumb engine got the message...
    Hasn't failed thus far.
    Yes back on topic, it has not? It often does me even if I do not view the enemy
    'For months Augustus let hair and beard grow and occasionally banged his head against the walls whilst shouting; "Quinctillius Varus, give me my legions back"' -Sueton, Augustus.

    "Deliver us oh God, from the fury of the Norsemen", French prayer, 9th century.
    Ask gi'r klask! ask-vikingekampgruppe.dk

    Balloon count: 13

  11. #71
    Member Member Macilrille's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Posts
    1,592

    Default Re: Makedonian Schutzstaffel

    Quote Originally Posted by Jebivjetar View Post
    Good job!
    One day you can write a book about us
    I do not think people who spend their time being a nuisance to others are worth my time, nor is writing a book about them- even if it was interesting.

    Welcome to the Ignore list, spammer.
    'For months Augustus let hair and beard grow and occasionally banged his head against the walls whilst shouting; "Quinctillius Varus, give me my legions back"' -Sueton, Augustus.

    "Deliver us oh God, from the fury of the Norsemen", French prayer, 9th century.
    Ask gi'r klask! ask-vikingekampgruppe.dk

    Balloon count: 13

  12. #72
    That's "Chopper" to you, bub. Member DaciaJC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Lower Peninsula, Michigan
    Posts
    652

    Default Re: Makedonian Schutzstaffel

    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman View Post
    Incidentally, didn't campaign difficulty level affect autoresolve...? Not that you should use it anyway, since it's wont to inflict quite a bit of unnecessary casualties on your army.

    Anyway, the issue with reinforcements is AFAIK fairly well known. For example, if you've already turned off the AI control of the reinforcement army and then view the enemy army, AI control will be turned back on yet the tick doesn't show. Just to make sure I for one always turning on and off several times before starting the battle to ensure the dumb engine got the message...
    Hasn't failed thus far.
    To go along with the topic of reinforcements: sometimes the human player will receive the message "Reinforcements delayed", and said reinforcements only come once enough men on the battlefield have been slaughtered. This can be remedied by going to EB/preferences and setting UNLIMITED_MEN_ON_BATTLEFIELD to TRUE.

    One more tidbit: apparently one can manipulate the engine to obtain control of two separate armies (field army and the reinforcing army) if each army has a general in command. See here for details.
    + =

    3x for this, this, and this

  13. #73
    Tuba Son Member Subotan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    The Land of Heat and Clockwork
    Posts
    4,990
    Blog Entries
    3

    Default Re: Makedonian Schutzstaffel

    Two things I've noticed about Auto-Resolve.
    1. ALWAYS Auto Resolve if you are assaulting a city with a large army and there is a very small garrison inside, as the engine does not take towers into account when you assault, which will cause the most damage to your units. I don't consider this an exploit seeing as how could a garrison of six men possibly inflict 40 casualties on an army of over 1,000?
    2. Mercenaries generally tend to fare worse in autoresolve than normal troops.

  14. #74
    That's "Chopper" to you, bub. Member DaciaJC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Lower Peninsula, Michigan
    Posts
    652

    Default Re: Makedonian Schutzstaffel

    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    I don't consider this an exploit seeing as how could a garrison of six men possibly inflict 40 casualties on an army of over 1,000?
    With numbers like that arrayed against you (taking the position of the six men), you don't really need to aim your bow/sling/javelin (assuming that you're fighting with these missile weapons). Loose those shafts quickty-quick and you're bound to hit people in that teeming mass below you.
    + =

    3x for this, this, and this

  15. #75
    German Enthusiast Member Alexanderofmacedon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Where Columbus condemned the natives
    Posts
    3,124

    Default Re: Makedonian Schutzstaffel

    Although I'm not offended, and in many cases agree that some SS units were elite, you have to look at all the facts.

    Some of the earlier SS divisions like 1.SS, 2.SS, 3.SS, and 5.SS were among the elite forces WHEN given the fact they had the best equipment of the entire German armed forces.

    The other side of the spectrum shows some horrible battle records including at times the 4.SS, 8.SS, 9.SS etc.

    True their fanatac nature made them better "warriors", but you have to remember many of the SS were foreign volunteers who just wanted to fight the Communist threat. They were not the type of radical SS material usually seen in Germany because they had no option of the Wehrmacht or SS - it was simply the SS. In this case they excelled too (5.SS, 11.SS), but there were many failing units.

    When equipped well (like the Wehrmacht division Grossdeutschland) you will see it had more to do with equippment than anything else. Grossdeutschland had one of the best battle records in the German military.

    Sorry, I know that is off topic and not what the thread is about at all...

    Good luck on your campaign.


  16. #76

    Default Re: Makedonian Schutzstaffel

    Quote Originally Posted by Alexanderofmacedon View Post
    Although I'm not offended, and in many cases agree that some SS units were elite, you have to look at all the facts.

    Some of the earlier SS divisions like 1.SS, 2.SS, 3.SS, and 5.SS were among the elite forces WHEN given the fact they had the best equipment of the entire German armed forces.

    The other side of the spectrum shows some horrible battle records including at times the 4.SS, 8.SS, 9.SS etc.

    True their fanatac nature made them better "warriors", but you have to remember many of the SS were foreign volunteers who just wanted to fight the Communist threat. They were not the type of radical SS material usually seen in Germany because they had no option of the Wehrmacht or SS - it was simply the SS. In this case they excelled too (5.SS, 11.SS), but there were many failing units.

    When equipped well (like the Wehrmacht division Grossdeutschland) you will see it had more to do with equippment than anything else. Grossdeutschland had one of the best battle records in the German military.

    Sorry, I know that is off topic and not what the thread is about at all...

    Good luck on your campaign.
    Thanks!

  17. #77

    Default Re: Makedonian Schutzstaffel

    Quote Originally Posted by Macilrille View Post
    I do not think people who spend their time being a nuisance to others are worth my time, nor is writing a book about them- even if it was interesting.

    Welcome to the Ignore list, spammer.
    Oh, thanks. I appreciate the time you've spend just on me


  18. #78
    EB TRIBVNVS PLEBIS Member MarcusAureliusAntoninus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    The State of Jefferson, USA
    Posts
    5,722

    Default Re: Makedonian Schutzstaffel

    I'm just going to close this one.
    It is off topic and I cannot see it getting back on topic.


Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO