Mafia Mongolica [Concluded]

[Chaotix]

With all of these long posts, you guys are making it difficult to keep up with the thread, here!

Although the discussion is certainly interesting. Personally, I see that TinCow is acting much more abrasively than usual for mafia games... and because this argument has bloomed into something taking up two or three pages at least, I think inevitably tomorrow's lynch is going to wind up between Reenk and TinCow. I think that both have to be lynched... my opinion is that one of them is mafia.

We won't have to worry about ATPG or Beskar being lynched, because they'll both be left in the dust by this feud of sorts... and I'm starting to wonder if they might really have a connection through roles, whether mafia or not. We have to keep our eyes on both of them, too.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think that both have to be lynched... my opinion is that one of them is mafia.

Why do you feel that one of them must be mafia?

If I were smart, and that's a big hypothetical, I would fade EASILY into the background of this whole mess and not garner attention on myself. There's just no reason to gain suspicion on oneself so early, especially with the murders coming in so slowly. I really have to reiterate the wasp nest and stick theory... if you're allergic to being lynched, why would you smack a bunch of townies in the face? Reenk is poking progressively more people in the eye, which eventually leads to people either thinking he is scum or wanting him eliminated anyway. TinCow doesn't have to put himself into the spotlight by challenging his behavior, yet he does.

Meh. I'll flip a coin between a lurker or someone who is trying too hard to "blend in", myself.

[Chaotix]

Why do you feel that one of them must be mafia?

If I were smart, and that's a big hypothetical, I would fade EASILY into the background of this whole mess and not garner attention on myself. There's just no reason to gain suspicion on oneself so early, especially with the murders coming in so slowly. I really have to reiterate the wasp nest and stick theory... if you're allergic to being lynched, why would you smack a bunch of townies in the face? Reenk is poking progressively more people in the eye, which eventually leads to people either thinking he is scum or wanting him eliminated anyway. TinCow doesn't have to put himself into the spotlight by challenging his behavior, yet he does.

Meh. I'll flip a coin between a lurker or someone who is trying too hard to "blend in", myself.

Then I'll say it again, myself.

WIFOM. Lots of WIFOM. If one of them happens to be mafia, they are getting exactly the kind of response they want from you: "He is putting himself in danger of lynch, therefore he must not be mafia".

I'll point to you and Reenk in The Prometheus.
I'll point to you and myself in Dark Descent.

It's not uncommon for mafia to be actively putting themselves in the spotlight, because the general consensus is that the mafia are going to be the lurkers, or those who blend in. That's why the three players who we've lynched so far have not been especially attention-demanding.

I'm not saying that the mafia couldn't be lurkers, but we can't just rule someone out because they are deliberately putting themselves in danger.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Then I'll say it again, myself.

WIFOM. Lots of WIFOM. If one of them happens to be mafia, they are getting exactly the kind of response they want from you: "He is putting himself in danger of lynch, therefore he must not be mafia".

I'll point to you and Reenk in The Prometheus.
I'll point to you and myself in Dark Descent.

It's not uncommon for mafia to be actively putting themselves in the spotlight, because the general consensus is that the mafia are going to be the lurkers, or those who blend in. That's why the three players who we've lynched so far have not been especially attention-demanding.

I'm not saying that the mafia couldn't be lurkers, but we can't just rule someone out because they are deliberately putting themselves in danger.

If they manage to survive for a while and it's clear they aren't going to be murdered, I'll review their activity and make a decision based on their post behavior. I can't do that with people who don't post much; and it does seem to be the case that mafia will lurk in situations where it is easy to do so, most of the time. But there's enough room for both of our approaches, because neither is fail-safe.

As for me and Reenk in Prometheus; it got my butt lynched pretty quick, and to be honest, Reenk surviving for that long after claiming detective was a serious clue. I know it's biased for me to say so, as I was mafia, but... detective claims seriously have to mean death in all cases. It's about 50/50 that the "detective" is actually mafia. Only Reenk and Khaan could make such a claim plausible, even after a couple night phases where he didn't die.

@AVSM- It's 6:53PM my time. You go to sleep!

[A Very Super Market]

What is that number? All I know is that the sun went down, and it's dark. Go to sleep, so I can strangle you.

Er---.

I mean.... rest.

[Beskar]

No results? Weird. I thought the round was ended a few hours ago. Just came home from work and thought I got night killed.

[Tratorix]

No results? Weird. I thought the round was ended a few hours ago. Just came home from work and thought I got night killed.

Rounds end whenever the Great Khaan says they end.

[TinCow]

TinCow is acting much more abrasively than usual for mafia games

If this is the case, I truly do apologize. My wife has been out of town on business for a week and a half and she's not due back until well into next week. I'm fond of her, and hanging around the house all alone for this long is making me a little grumpy. I shall endeavor to solve the problem by drinking more wine until she returns.

[Chaotix]

If this is the case, I truly do apologize. My wife has been out of town on business for a week and a half and she's not due back until well into next week. I'm fond of her, and hanging around the house all alone for this long is making me a little grumpy. I shall endeavor to solve the problem by drinking more wine until she returns.

It wasn't necessarily a bad thing, if that's how you took it.

I just meant to note a change in behavior- you do seem to be more aggressively pressuring other players than in the previous games I've played with you; looking at your last few posts, I realize this is probably intentional. It reminds me somewhat of ATPG and his walls of text in his earlier games (but with substantially less "wall" in the text, of course).

[gibsonsg91921]

Right now my top suspicions are TinCow, Reenk, ATPG, and Beskar.

I wouldn't put it past TinCow to have staged an argument with Reenk right now to make it look like they aren't in-game buds.

Oh well. I'm so bad at this game.

[A Very Super Market]

Go to sleep, crazy people.