Mafia Mongolica [Concluded]

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

At the very least, you know that person being lynched isn't you... presumably that's a good thing.

While I have previously been a cheerleader for the "save yourself at any cost" style of play, above all everything I do is aimed at winning. If I think I will improve my odds of winning by being lynched, then I will do so. In this situation, as I saw it, saving myself at the expense of W_E would have made me look scummy and undermined my ability to aid the town for the rest of the game. Don't get me wrong, I very much prefer to have a vote than to not have a vote. However, I thought that if I saved myself in that manner I would probably have ensured my lynch in the next round anyway. So, if I was going to lose my vote no matter what, better to do it in a manner that won't make people quite as suspicious of my motives.

Thank you, I appreciate your perspective. (sincerely) I've been quite obvious about saving myself all game, and I don't think it's damaged my credibility.

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(When you have none, you have none to lose! )

Originally Posted by YLC

It appears my customer wishes that my vote be placed upon TC, and, erring on the side of caution, shall..

Unvote: Sigurd, Vote: TinCow

I offered you a goat, good man!

A GOAT!

Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

I offered you a goat, good man!

A GOAT!

Good sir, the product had already been bought! How am I to sell something that I no longer own?

Hmmm......why did you guys not vote me off??
TinCow, I thank you but you should have voted me off, if you were townie

Let's look at people's reasons for voting me...

Beskar: "You lynched me in other games and are still trying to in this one" I don't like it when people take it personally....it's just a GAME, get over it.

ATPG: "I must back-up my Beskar buddy" I know you ATPG and you would Lie, Betray and Lie some more to save your scum buddy's, so don't say your backing up your buddy say scum buddy

Jolt: "I came up with such a bad reason to vote someone, I might as well not give a reason at all" I mean is any of this getting though to the town?? He gave such a horriable reason...It made my eyes hurt just reading it

Town is really not working this game

I'd like, cheat, and lie some more even as a townie. I've been doing that a lot lately.

Sometimes I do it just for fun.

Since as I said, you keep voting me for non-game reasons, it is poor sportsmanship.

Originally Posted by Beskar

Since as I said, you keep voting me for non-game reasons, it is poor sportsmanship.

I gave my reasons. I would have been happy had I been lynched by TinCow because no more, WIFOM relating to me Why you cling to life, when you Know that the Mafia are going to use it against you is puzzling...

Why can only make you and ATPG scum in my mind because of how closely you keep working together A ballsy show to be sure but I am sure everyone else notices it

Edit:Okay, WHY did you just edit it?? You and Pizzaguy MUST be scum He problaly PM'ed you and told you not to say anything related to him...JACKPOT

He caught us! RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

He caught us! RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!

I know, I didn't want to believe the Beskar-ATPG connection, that Reenk and a few others put up....but now I have no doubt, that you and Beskar are working closely together

Edit:and all because Beskar has such a quick temper....figured he would see that coming

We work together... intimately....

Originally Posted by Beskar

We work together... intimately....

Bow chicka wow. Chicka wow wow.

Originally Posted by White_eyes:D

I know, I didn't want to believe the Beskar-ATPG connection, that Reenk and a few others put up....but now I have no doubt, that you and Beskar are working closely together

Edit:and all because Beskar has such a quick temper....figured he would see that coming

White Eyes comes to the shocking conclusion that Beskar and ATPG may be working together about three rounds after several people put that theory forward. Case closed.

Beskar and I are the boldest mafia ever. We just kinda chill and let the town know what we're up to. And then they go lynch themselves and we clink our martini glasses together and laugh and laugh.

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Beskar and I are the boldest mafia ever. We just kinda chill and let the town know what we're up to. And then they go lynch themselves and we clink our martini glasses together and laugh and laugh.

...

You both need to die, then.

Shouldn't be too much longer. In the meantime, all this focus on a select few is letting some people sneak through the entire game with 2 or 3 posts, in spite of my repeated frustrated protests.

See what I did there? I was having fun, now I'm serious. How about we get real next round.

Oh, sure....now it's the lurkers??
You had your chance with Sigurd....but instead went with Me

Originally Posted by Tratorix

White Eyes comes to the shocking conclusion that Beskar and ATPG may be working together about three rounds after several people put that theory forward. Case closed.

I just thought it was mere chance and they were screwing around
I don't over-analyze, unless I am SK/Mafia.....not my fault

Where's an investigator when you need one? All of this confusion is only a detriment to the town.

ATPG, if you'd like to "get serious", then stop making yourself such a blatant lynch target so we can focus on the real suspects.

Originally Posted by Chaotix

Where's an investigator when you need one? All of this confusion is only a detriment to the town.

ATPG, if you'd like to "get serious", then stop making yourself such a blatant lynch target so we can focus on the real suspects.

Stop getting voted for!

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Bow chicka wow. Chicka wow wow.

NO!

It is: Bow chicka bow wow.

Stupid ad. IT IS COOLER IN RED VS BLUE.


RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE.

Originally Posted by pevergreen

NO!

It is: Bow chicka bow wow.

Stupid ad. IT IS COOLER IN RED VS BLUE.


RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE.

Hey chicka bum bum.

Originally Posted by gibsonsg91921

Hey chicka bum bum.

Bow chicka honk honk.

Bow chicka don't spam...

-edit- Lynch: Beskar

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Bow chicka don't spam...

-edit- Lynch: Beskar

We need to lynch Beskar you say. Why?

He has put "lynch: Beskar" in every post for the last two or three rounds. He did it because his argument was to lynch me as I am a distraction and I replied "Or you could just quit saying 'lynch: Beskar', same effect." so he has constantly put it in every post.

He Spam Ghost, Coast to Coast.

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Bow chicka don't spam...

-edit- Lynch: Beskar

pever (Imitating GH's voice, which happens to be a girls): Hey guys, I'm super horny from all the robot killing. Does someone want to help me out of this armour? This breastplate is really itchy.
pever: Bow chicka -
*GH pulls out shotgun, aimed at pever*
pever: Woah...stories over.
GH (still has a girls voice, and does for the rest of it): You're a pig
pever: Hey, I didn't even get to the part where the sailors come in.

a while later
gibsong: pevers big thing?
pever: bow chicka bow wow

seconds later
GH: Everyone form up behind me, and stay tight.
pever: Bow chicka bow wow
GH: Never mind, pever's in front.
pever: Ahh...it was worth it.

a few more seconds later
GH: Then lets go get this big thing of yours.
pever: Bow chicka bow wow
GH: Oh shut up.

[Whatever you're smoking, send some Stateside - GH]

Originally Posted by pevergreen

pever (Imitating GH's voice, which happens to be a girls): Hey guys, I'm super horny from all the robot killing. Does someone want to help me out of this armour? This breastplate is really itchy.
pever: Bow chicka -
*GH pulls out shotgun, aimed at pever*
pever: Woah...stories over.
GH (still has a girls voice, and does for the rest of it): You're a pig
pever: Hey, I didn't even get to the part where the sailors come in.

a while later
gibsong: pevers big thing?
pever: bow chicka bow wow

seconds later
GH: Everyone form up behind me, and stay tight.
pever: Bow chicka bow wow
GH: Never mind, pever's in front.
pever: Ahh...it was worth it.

a few more seconds later
GH: Then lets go get this big thing of yours.
pever: Bow chicka bow wow
GH: Oh shut up.

[Whatever you're smoking, send some Stateside - GH]

Like I only saw the sanitized version and I'm still...

People who I think are scummy in decreasing order:

Tratorix
Sigurd
Beskar/Atpg
Death is Yonder

I suppose that is because I haven't been participating much in this line of discussion?

I just think that the lynches thus far, while providing discussion, are started to side track the town.

Shouldn't be too much longer. In the meantime, all this focus on a select few is letting some people sneak through the entire game with 2 or 3 posts, in spite of my repeated frustrated protests.

Vindication, ain't it? People like me just cruising by... as a matter of proof, we're so caught up in back and forth circle logic about who is guilty and who is not, that little 'ol me who for some extremely odd reason conjured up near lynches on all my votes on the first round

Insta-Bandwagon eh?

Surprised nobody picked up on it, I was getting curious about it.

Where's an investigator when you need one? All of this confusion is only a detriment to the town.

Here's a thought, why don't we pressure the lurkers!

Certainly not overdone, and certainly no bandwagons...

Mob: Speak up or die!

Lurker: *squeak* Don't kill me please! I stopped lurking!

Mob: Feel the power of the bandwagon... behavior change! Lynch him!

Originally Posted by Chaotix

ATPG, if you'd like to "get serious", then stop making yourself such a blatant lynch target so we can focus on the real suspects.

Hmm... let's recap.

First round:

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Chaotix, Jolt, Tratorix, and Reenk vote for me. I am forced to vote for FactionHeir to stay alive, and I didn't even hide what I was doing. I even said FH was going to be a poop-tastic lynch, because he hadn't posted and I sent him a message many, many hours before the end of the round going "Hey you're gonna die if you don't show up this lynch is stupid vote for someone else with me so we can both live" and he didn't show up until he was dead. It seemed plainly obvious to me he was innocent, and I asked everyone in the thread to vote for someone else. No one listened. The bandwagon on me, which started rolling based off of my post where I did the South Park underwear gnome "4: ????? 5: Profit!!!!" joke was rather bizarre.

Second round:

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The Beskar wagon! In post 163, I flat out tell you he's innocent. Gee, how would I know that? Fun. Not to be outdone by my blatant reveal that he's my partner, the wagon continues. Post 168, I flat out state it once again. My voting pattern all round was simply to spare him from death. Post 203, Tratorix makes an observation at how suicidal it would be for me to simply reveal who my mafia partner is and blatantly vote to spare him all game. A couple players, such as TinCow and Reenk, actually think this makes sense. As such, I don't go after them at all because hey... making sense is a good thing. Beefy gets lynched due to the Beskar wagon which I kind of hinted several times was a mistake. And, one of us should have died that night due to the reveal; I guess town wasn't the only one not paying attention. GH dies that night, and concludes Beskar must have done it. I hate to criticize the dead, but... sorry, no he didn't. I'm sure there are other people who might have wanted to take you out of the game. Everything I've done so far: Scummy, not obviously Beskar's partner with such a simplistic behavior pattern that it is picked up by Reenk very very early on in the game, to which I didn't even deny it, and in fact admitted it several times. Definitely scum.

Third round:

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White_Eyes votes for me. Wonder why I want him dead? Townies need to be more observant than this. He voted me for "killing Beefy, the likely innocent townie", over Beskar, the 100% innocent townie. This would be the same obvious innocent he himself voted for once. I am a smooth criminal. I vote Khazaar because he is not doing anything to contribute. Gibson votes for me again, perhaps trying to lynch me so that I won't have to be nightkilled, proving that I am a townie. I try to involve Split in the discussion because he appeared to be showing up very infrequently, blending in to the mass of players who were currently doing that. Then he voted for himself and I suggested it would be a bad idea to do that, even though it provided another body to be voted for which could save my own butt. Chaotix votes for Split, which seemed awfully scum to me after he had voted for me in previous rounds and now was his chance to lynch me. But that's ok because I'm the scummy one here and nothing I do makes any sense. I start a campaign to get Khazaar talking which fails woefully, while I obviously avoid voting for Beskar, or even Reenk, who seems to make more sense even though he's still stuck on Beskar. Ichigo drops an excuse for not participating and sneaks through more rounds. YLC votes Beskar and I just blatantly do anything I can to save him, carefully packaged in a layer of sarcasm. Sigurd doesn't go for Beskar when he has the chance, so I mark him down as perhaps one of the sane ones. White_Eyes votes for Beskar, further solidifying him as a troublemaker in my book for this game. I so want him dead. Jolt votes for me... I'm not even close. Totally wasted vote. I even tell him to use it properly, you could even use it on Beskar. Gee, since he thinks I'm guilty, why wouldn't he use it on Beskar, who I am defending? Not a smart move if I am mafia. Yet as a townie, I feel obligated to point out he's just wasting his vote. Totally pointless.

Anyways, round three was just as useless as rounds one and two, and I again make no attempt to hide my affiliation with Beskar. I even make up cutesy nicknames for the two of us. In desperation, I even ask Split to vote for himself. Split, who I felt was a bad lynch but better than a Beskar lynch, goes down. I would have preferred pressuring those who are sneaking by while all the focus is on myself and Beskar, but... what the hey.

Fourth round:

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In post 360 I note that I feel that we've been wasting our energies focusing on Beskar, and the factionalism over whether or not he is guilty is unhelpful. But if you think he's guilty, vote for him, because 4 wasted rounds is enough. Jolt votes for White_Eyes and I hop right on that bandwagon. This round the focus is on TinCow and Sigurd, both of whom have been less foamy at the mouth over Beskar's supposed guilt, so I'd rather not let a sane townie go. I did everything I could to give you a third option, one who is basically guaranteed to doom us to fail because he's obsessed with Beskar and me, but... TinCow chose not to spare himself, and that was the end of that chapter. I joke that Beskar and I are the most obvious mafia ever, and Jolt takes me seriously. *facepalm* Then I say, let's get real next round... because I'd really, really, really like us to get real next round. From where I'm sitting, we've done nothing but waste time and throw around some really thoughtless accusations which might have been retracted after only a moment or two of critical thinking. Either lynch Beskar or don't, either lynch me or don't, but please populate your suspect lists with more than just us. And yes, we are working together. Speculation continues that we might be working together, which is silly because I said so. A lot. At this point, revealing that we know each other are innocent and getting killed off by the mafia would actually be a very good thing for the town so they can move on. We aren't that critical to your efforts anyway.

Too long; didn't read:

Beskar and I are working together and I've even made that painfully obvious. Lynch us, but then please move on.

Do not let Reenk dictate the direction of the discussion. He still needs to explain this:

Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

given some behind the scenes knowledge I have gotten

Reenk has admitted to received information from someone else which included some kind of evidence that I am guilty. Since I know that to be blatantly false, either Reenk is lying or his contact is lying. Pressure Reenk until this issue is clarified.