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Thread: Mafia Mongolica [Concluded]
Note how despite arguing (quite spuriously imo) against revealing the rest of the investigations, Atpg has verbally said in the thread "I'll have to reveal, probably" and yet we still have nothing a long time after that statement.
Now that TinCow's suggestion of post mortem hints has been explicitly forbidden by khaan, I don't really see the need to keep us in the dark or keep us waiting...
Also, note from Atpg's PM to me after I tested him, that he seemed then willing to give me the investigation results.
With that being said, if the speculation that Beskar is one of the investigations, than Atpg had investigated two really active in thread players. Given that he has failed to give us the third, it's still hard to see if we can draw a disconnect between Ichigo and other investigations though, so take that with a grain of salt.
What I think is more odd is the fact that he investigated Ichigo twice. Yes, he can use the reason that given that there wasn't a kill, maybe Ichigo was active, but the same exact reasoning could be used on me (given that there was 1 kill, maybe I was inactive). He didn't bother to check me twice before contacting me with his role.
Your behavior as detective and watcher is very questionable in several areas thoroughly exposed since your reveal and outside factors such as the kill choices also contribute to the suspicion against you.
Frankly, I believe the two strongest options for who you are are:
1) Mafia
2) Investigatory role who is trying to look suspicious enough to stay alive but is failing by going to the other extreme
Both of these lynches would do good. The first for obvious reasons, the second because at this point, you are causing more detriment to the town with the uncertain nature of yourself. You are a source of confusion at this point, and that outweighs the potential benefit you might have of investigating. The longer you live, the more doubt and uncertainty you cause, and also the more dangerous you become if you really are Mafia (as your partner is probably alive at this point).
Lastly, does it not seem really odd to anyone else that in many of Atpg's posts he implies he will live this coming night...
We have some time left. Why not take the safe play now and lynch Atpg next round or the one after that if he lives, and then go back to finding the other bad guy(s)?
Can you think of anyone who has a better reason for voting against? The only one on that level is White eyes.
Now that TinCow's suggestion of post mortem hints has been explicitly forbidden by khaan, I don't really see the need to keep us in the dark or keep us waiting...
Also, note from Atpg's PM to me after I tested him, that he seemed then willing to give me the investigation results.
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
However, it would be tactically beneficial for me to take me up on your offer to "reveal" for me.
So what happened now? Why the change in opinion? It can't seriously be to hide yourself anymore, as you have claimed.However, it would be tactically beneficial for me to take me up on your offer to "reveal" for me.
Originally Posted by TinCow:
I pondered this on the way to work this morning. Despite my previous statements, there's something about this that isn't sitting right with me. Simply put, Ichigo seems like an odd choice for an investigation last night. Of all the people to investigate, he just seems... unlikely. Given the last few days events, would anyone else have picked him? It also conveniently coincides with the first double kill last night, which, combined with ATPG's claim of an 'uncertain' detective ability is almost too good to be true.
I still support Ichigo's lynch here, but I'm beginning to come around to Reenk's thought process on this. Perhaps it would be best to remove ATPG next round just to make sure.
Well, given what I would do with the power, Ichigo seems a reasonable enough choice in that I think it's best especially early on to investigate those players who haven't had much exposed about them in the main thread.I pondered this on the way to work this morning. Despite my previous statements, there's something about this that isn't sitting right with me. Simply put, Ichigo seems like an odd choice for an investigation last night. Of all the people to investigate, he just seems... unlikely. Given the last few days events, would anyone else have picked him? It also conveniently coincides with the first double kill last night, which, combined with ATPG's claim of an 'uncertain' detective ability is almost too good to be true.
I still support Ichigo's lynch here, but I'm beginning to come around to Reenk's thought process on this. Perhaps it would be best to remove ATPG next round just to make sure.
With that being said, if the speculation that Beskar is one of the investigations, than Atpg had investigated two really active in thread players. Given that he has failed to give us the third, it's still hard to see if we can draw a disconnect between Ichigo and other investigations though, so take that with a grain of salt.
What I think is more odd is the fact that he investigated Ichigo twice. Yes, he can use the reason that given that there wasn't a kill, maybe Ichigo was active, but the same exact reasoning could be used on me (given that there was 1 kill, maybe I was inactive). He didn't bother to check me twice before contacting me with his role.
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
I won't protest about the lynch, because I know many will support it in a "covering our butt" move even though I am innocent. However,
Make sure if you must. But it is a wasted lynch, that is all I can say.
On the contrary. Your lynch would be beneficial to the town even if you are proven later to be who you say you are. This is because as of now, the context of the game and yourself is one of high confusion and doubt.I won't protest about the lynch, because I know many will support it in a "covering our butt" move even though I am innocent. However,
Make sure if you must. But it is a wasted lynch, that is all I can say.
Your behavior as detective and watcher is very questionable in several areas thoroughly exposed since your reveal and outside factors such as the kill choices also contribute to the suspicion against you.
Frankly, I believe the two strongest options for who you are are:
1) Mafia
2) Investigatory role who is trying to look suspicious enough to stay alive but is failing by going to the other extreme
Both of these lynches would do good. The first for obvious reasons, the second because at this point, you are causing more detriment to the town with the uncertain nature of yourself. You are a source of confusion at this point, and that outweighs the potential benefit you might have of investigating. The longer you live, the more doubt and uncertainty you cause, and also the more dangerous you become if you really are Mafia (as your partner is probably alive at this point).
Lastly, does it not seem really odd to anyone else that in many of Atpg's posts he implies he will live this coming night...
We have some time left. Why not take the safe play now and lynch Atpg next round or the one after that if he lives, and then go back to finding the other bad guy(s)?
Can you think of anyone who has a better reason for voting against? The only one on that level is White eyes.
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