Mafia Mongolica [Concluded]

Originally Posted by TinCow

Don't assume one mafioso has been inactive/lurking. The mafioso could have only one kill between them, and there are also many, many reasons for mafioso to not use their full killing power, especially in the beginning.

Doesn't that make the game really unbalanced? If there is only one kill.

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As for askthepizzaguy, look at Splittered Cells game, he is doing what he did there, basically. He was a townie to the very end, always changing and backstabbing to stay alive.

Originally Posted by TinCow

It's been a while since I played with ATPG, but I recall his attitude shifting after about the 10th time that didn't work. The last few games I've seen ATPG in, he hasn't acted the same as his original suicidally verbose self. Given the results that style of play got him, I think that was a good move. That's also why I chose to save his bacon in the first round. ATPG reformed his play style, so he deserves a break from us.

Oh, I'm not saying we should lynch him now. I'm just saying we should keep an eye on him. As for reforming his playstyle, define "reformed".

Originally Posted by Tratorix

Lynching neutral roles isn't our goal. Lynching the mafia is. While he could possibly be a threat in the end game, right now an extra vote wouldn't make much difference to the mafia and we only get so many lynches.

We do not know if he is neutral or not. He may be all for the mafia and we do not know it. Unless you know it somehow and we don't. Mafiaoso...

Originally Posted by Beskar

Doesn't that make the game really unbalanced? If there is only one kill.

Impossible to say without knowing how the game is set up. Note the following in the rules:

Town: ?(yes, I'm evil like that.)

Twists? Perhaps.

This isn't just straight up mafia vs. town, there's likely something else going on here as well. In khaan's previous game, he introduced the ability to resurrect dead players to the Gameroom. He has interesting ideas on game twists, so assuming that any specific setup situation must apply is dangerous.

Originally Posted by Beskar

Doesn't that make the game really unbalanced? If there is only one kill.

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As for askthepizzaguy, look at Splittered Cells game, he is doing what he did there, basically. He was a townie to the very end, always changing and backstabbing to stay alive.

Your cases eerily remind me of SkyNet...

Originally Posted by TinCow

It's been a while since I played with ATPG, but I recall his attitude shifting after about the 10th time that didn't work. The last few games I've seen ATPG in, he hasn't acted the same as his original suicidally verbose self. Given the results that style of play got him, I think that was a good move. That's also why I chose to save his bacon in the first round. ATPG reformed his play style, so he deserves a break from us.

Normally, I would agree but for the fact that I am really feeling this Atpg-Beskar connection. Given that it's early and the votes on the other people seem to have even less of a case than mine (and I have never been strong at making these cases), I'm going to push ahead with it. I feel a lot better about lynching Beskar than Atpg though...

SOLD!, to the man of the Reenk and in the Roink sir, SOLD, and have a good day sir!

Vote: Beskar

I'm sorry folks, but I'm going to have to close up shop early, and with my double deals today, I'll have nothing in stock until the day after tomorrow, honest merchant am I.

Originally Posted by DJGingivtis

We do not know if he is neutral or not. He may be all for the mafia and we do not know it. Unless you know it somehow and we don't. Mafiaoso...

You were the one who called him neutral though...

Also, you misspelled Mafioso.

Vote: YLC

'Selling votes' is an easy way to skate through rounds without having to justify your actions.

Originally Posted by TinCow

Vote: YLC

'Selling votes' is an easy way to skate through rounds without having to justify your actions.

I am appalled you you sir, would accuse me of dealings of less then honorable nature! I am, and will always be a clean, honest business man. If your unsatisfied with the results of my product, then it is a fault of your own, for everything I sell if of the highest quality and there is no competitor!

Continue along your insinuations, and I will simply not be able to sell to you at all sir.

Oh noes, not Beskar. Must save him, etc.

unvote, vote: YLC

A...B...C!

Vote: Caius

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Oh noes, not Beskar. Must save him, etc.

unvote, vote: YLC

Sarcasm aside, you are still voting to save him.

Originally Posted by AVSM

A...B...C!

Vote: Caius

Unvote is your friend.

Originally Posted by Tratorix

Sarcasm aside, you are still voting to save him.

That is correct. And, I didn't wait until the last minute to do so either.

If I absolutely HAVE to drop a hint, it's pointless.

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Oh noes, not Beskar. Must save him, etc.

unvote, vote: YLC

Good sir, I suggest you stop trying to defame my product! It was sold entirely in a legitimate manner, and to go off and ruin if for someone else is downright despicable!

Originally Posted by YLC

Good sir, I suggest you stop trying to defame my product! It was sold entirely in a legitimate manner, and to go off and ruin if for someone else is downright despicable!

I don't have a problem with you selling votes. You aren't triggering my scumdar so I'd rather not lynch you either.

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I don't have a problem with you selling votes. You aren't triggering my scumdar so I'd rather not lynch you either.

So... you really ARE voting YLC just to save Beskar?

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I don't have a problem with you selling votes. You aren't triggering my scumdar so I'd rather not lynch you either.

This honest business man find your statement contradictory - for why is Beskar's product better then mine?

Originally Posted by TinCow

So... you really ARE voting YLC just to save Beskar?

Pretty much. Not a lot of options here. And unless you guys think you nailed two mafia, I'd suggest a different approach.

I think YLC has set up a perfect WIFOM by being totally flamboyant and attention-getting. No mafia would do that. But we would think that no mafia would do that so a mafia would do that. I've definitely rock-paper-scissor battled my wits to the death over this.

Gib, no matter if he is mafia or not, he is a deadly weapon that can be used to trigger hell on earth for the townies. Now with the number of player I feel like there is two mafioso. Therefore there is 3 vote swing if they get YLC to sell them their vote. While now that is not a huge deal, if they decide to push the vote over on someone getting close we might not have enough time to come back and counter this. Therefore if we take YLC out of the equation we have a better shot at surviving.


Also it is rock-paper-scissors-lizard-Spock.

Originally Posted by DJGingivtis

Gib, no matter if he is mafia or not, he is a deadly weapon that can be used to trigger hell on earth for the townies. Now with the number of player I feel like there is two mafioso. Therefore there is 3 vote swing if they get YLC to sell them their vote. While now that is not a huge deal, if they decide to push the vote over on someone getting close we might not have enough time to come back and counter this. Therefore if we take YLC out of the equation we have a better shot at surviving.


Also it is rock-paper-scissors-lizard-Spock.

But for that to happen, one of the mafia has to approach YLC in thread and ask him to switch his vote, which would basically reveal them. You believe he's a neutral role, yet are still pushing to lynch him, which is very scummy IMHO.

For everyone's info- this round will end end at exactly 7:00 AM CST aka 12:00 GMT

Originally Posted by Tratorix

But for that to happen, one of the mafia has to approach YLC in thread and ask him to switch his vote, which would basically reveal them. You believe he's a neutral role, yet are still pushing to lynch him, which is very scummy IMHO.

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OOC: Ah, the truth be spoken

Originally Posted by Tratorix

But for that to happen, one of the mafia has to approach YLC in thread and ask him to switch his vote, which would basically reveal them.

Or they could just do what Reenk did to get YLC to vote how they want in the first place... ask.

Unvote:GH Vote:Beefy (Your being far to quiet for your own good....)

Perfect. YLC doesn't seem to care if he lives or dies. I even asked if I could buy his vote and move my own off of him, and he didn't even go for it. At this point I don't feel like lynching either YLC or Beskar.

unvote, vote: Beefy

Hmm... I've voted with White_Eyes twice this round. Personally I think that's very scummy of me. I'm keeping my peepers on you, pizzaguy.

FoS:ATPG
I don't like how you jumped on Beefy.... (Beefy better speak up.....I get a "scum feeling" from him....but I was wrong in the past If he speaks up....I will know if he is Mafia...Most of his posts so far, remind me of the times we were Scum buddies)

Originally Posted by TinCow

Or they could just do what Reenk did to get YLC to vote how they want in the first place... ask.

If someone trys to use his vote at a pivotal moment, don't you think people might find it a bit suspicious?

@ WE

If someone votes for someone you think is scum... they must be scum? There's a kink in your logic hose somewhere.

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

@ WE

If someone votes for someone you think is scum... they must be scum? There's a kink in your logic hose somewhere.

Why so jumpy?? I think your a guy who would Lie,Cheat and Betray to save his scum buddies No need to remind me....