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    Sarah Palin resigns as governor. What the heck is that about?

    I know there was a very negative Vanity Fair article, as well as airing of some negative emails, but none of that adds up to any sort of reason for why she should resign. Do any Orgahs have any insight into this flummoxing behavior?

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    Okay, Politico has a shake'n'bake analysis, but I don't think we're getting the whole story here ...

    By not running for re-election, Palin liberates herself from the political constraints that come with running for president while still in elected office.

    Leaving office at the end of the month, the former vice presidential hopeful will be able to travel the country more freely without facing the sort of repeated ethics inquiries she’s been fending off since returning to Alaska earlier this year.

    Palin has been dogged by a series of ethical complaints, many of which her allies consider as frivolous, and has had to set up a legal defense fund to pay her bills.

    Just this week, the Anchorage Daily News reported that these complaints against her administration had reached almost $300,000, much of that sum owing to the so-called “Troopergate” probe of Palin.

    Beyond ethical questions, Palin has continued to face other difficulties since her return to Alaska.

    Legislators of both parties have complained about some of her time away from the state capitol and Palin has had to grapple with a series of tabloid-type stories relating to her family.

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    One doesn't need a scandal uncovered by some journalist to resign.

    You could also resign when you know you've screwed up, there's only a limited time before the press finds out and burns you, but if you resign now before it comes out, the press might not be bother with it, thereby saving your reputation.
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    That's peculiar. I wonder if she figures it's easier to run for the Republican nominee for President without serving as a sitting governor? That or there's a scandal percolating.
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    I hope she'll run..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian II View Post
    I hope she'll run..
    and i hope she doesnt.
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    I hope she'll run..
    How far and off how tall a drop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian II View Post
    I hope she'll run..
    In a swimsuit in slow motion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
    How far and off how tall a drop?
    haha! that made my day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    In a swimsuit in slow motion?
    You have some weird tastes..
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    Vastly intruiging.

    I haven't the faintest clue what it is about. Preparation for 2012? That seems unlikely.

    Personal reasons? She was suddenly propelled to the centre of world attention. I think she really did believe in her own image at one point. It must be hard to return to the dirt of petty Alaskan politics. To dwell amongst the stars and then find your feet back stuck in the eternally soggy mud of Alaska. A state, lest we forget, of a mere 600.000 souls. Must feel awfully isolated and small once one has had a taste of the Big stage.
    I guess all the local reporters and all the local politicians know each other on a first name basis. Why, perhaps she asks herself, would Sarah, who rings such a chord in all of America, subject herself to this petty tripe?


    Mere speculation. I do not expect to find anything on the internet that will shed some light, so I won't bother. I'm curious to see how this develops.
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    haha! that made my day!
    Hey she is a friend of Israel ...OK I was going to add Palins church views on Jews but Hooah might rightly have found it rather offensive.

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    686k, mind you!

    Yes, this is quite surprising. Her term would have ended in 2010, which strikes me as plenty of time to campaign for 2012.

    Now, the last time we went "What's going on?" with a GOP governor was...let's see, Mark Sanford, when he was "hiking" in the "Appalachians". Somehow I don't think this will help her campaign in 2012.

    And what's up with her wrapping herself in the flag? Not classy at all.

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    Preparation for 2012? That seems unlikely.
    Yeah, upon further reflection that seems out of character. There are some ethics scandals being bandied about. Maybe she's being a team player and trying to take some heat off Mark Sandford.

    Or maybe Obama is really the reincarnation of Richard Nixon...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
    OK I was going to add Palins church views on Jews but Hooah might rightly have found it rather offensive.
    I suspect they are not so much offensive as nonsensical. But by all means, surprise me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    And what's up with her wrapping herself in the flag? Not classy at all.

    what? Palin? not classy?....why I would never!
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    Truly puzzling. Here's her speech, part one and part two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
    Hey she is a friend of Israel ...OK I was going to add Palins church views on Jews but Hooah might rightly have found it rather offensive.
    hey... even I know shes borderline insane.
    in case you didnt know, i was against the decision to put Palin on the ticket in 2008.
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    This is sad. Not her choice, but what made it necassary. Right now state politics are so partisan and so crazy that she will be able to get nothing done as governor. The only thing that she will do is subject Alaska to squabbling and her family to rude, crude, and disgusting attacks, not to mention the load of BS ethics violation charges brought against her. She is resigning now to give her Lt Governor a better chance at getting elected next term. I got a feeling that this will not be the end of her political career though. She is the type of woman we need in politics.
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    Pallin running in 2012 would pretty much guarantee an Obama win. I have yet to decide if that would be a good thing or a bad thing.
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    A post from Jonah Goldberg (one of Palin's biggest initial supporters) from earlier today:
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    Dear Governor Palin,

    You’re blowing it.

    We haven’t met, but you might remember I was one of the first columnists to tout you for John McCain’s running mate. I cheered you mightily when Senator McCain selected you, and I still believe that you were the smartest choice he could have made given the obstacles before him. I’m also assuming you want to run for president some day.

    There’s a reason why the Left and much of the media establishment hated you from day one. Some hated you out of the fear that you might stop Barack Obama’s unfolding coronation. Others because you seemed to expose the snobbery, arrogance, and ideological pieties of elite feminism. Your beauty, your status as a working mom, your blue-collar husband, your bravery in taking on the political establishment in Alaska, your proud status as a pro-lifer and mother of a special-needs child: All of these things were — and are — deeply threatening to a secular left-wing cultural elite.

    ↓ Keep reading this article ↓








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    All of this was an incredible compliment. Powerful people don’t fear the powerless. Remember how Mike Huckabee borrowed that Air Force maxim when he got grief during the primaries? “If you’re not taking flak, you’re not over the target.” Well, you were over the target.

    But not anymore. Oh, you’re still taking flak, but not because you strike fear in the hearts of Democrats. You’re taking flak because you’re striking fear in the hearts of Republicans. For Democrats, fairly or not, you’ve become a laughingstock. And for some of McCain’s campaign managers, you’ve become a convenient excuse for their failures.

    But while McCain’s strategists do not cover themselves in glory for scapegoating you, you are not without blame either. You do seem to think the best advice is for you to stay just the way you are. Leaders listen to the advice they don’t necessarily want to hear.

    For starters, every time I see you on TV, you’re whining about unfair press coverage. Don’t get me wrong: Much of it is unfair, and some of it deserves a response. But it’s not presidential. It’s not even gubernatorial. You are constantly taking the bait, taking up the fights your biggest fans want you to take up.

    But here’s the thing: Don’t listen to your biggest fans. Don’t alienate them either, but don’t think that because the Palin4Pres crowd cheers, you’re making progress. Politics is ultimately about persuasion, and you seem entirely uninterested in that, preferring instead to play the victim. Well, victims don’t get elected president. Ronald Reagan was a laughingstock for liberals and despised by the press. But he didn’t whine or take the bait.

    Second, peddling a few platitudes and truisms about free markets and limited government is no substitute for really knowing what you’re talking about. Yes, you can talk well about the stuff you know — oil drilling, energy, etc. — but beyond your comfort zone, you fall back on bumper-sticker language that sounds fine to the people who already agree with you but is useless in winning over skeptics.

    President Bush had the same problem you do, which is why there’s a hunger for Republicans who can effectively articulate and sell our policies and philosophy. That’s why the wonks have the upper hand. Mitt Romney, Indiana governor Mitch Daniels, Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal, and other hands-on types are what the party wants and, frankly, needs.

    Here’s the good news: You have time. Here’s the better news: You have something no one else in the party has — charisma. And I don’t mean you have the most charisma like it’s a consolation prize for not being elected prom queen. If money could buy what you have, Romney would have bought it all by now. Good politicians can learn how to win over audiences, but the great ones are born with the ability. Reagan had it. Clinton had it. Obama has it. You have it. You are the “It Girl” of the GOP.

    What you lack, you can learn. If knowing how to describe the situation in Pakistan or explain the “doughnut hole” in health-care coverage was all you needed to get elected, an intern with a subscription to The Economist could be president.

    So here’s my advice. Stay home and do your job and your homework. You’ll still be a national figure come the primaries. But if you can’t surprise your detractors with your grasp of policy when you re-emerge on the national stage, you won’t win the nomination. More important, you won’t deserve to.

    Talk about foreshadowing...

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    [...] and mother of a special-needs child: All of these things were — and are — deeply threatening to a secular left-wing cultural elite.
    Awesome. I wasn't aware that some Americans view the left as promoting eugenics. If anything, left = social policies, which englobe special-needs people.
    BLARGH!

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    She gives Alaska what she thinks Alasaka asked for, when they propelled her to the governorship.

    And distantly hopes that maybe America hopes for the same kind of treatment.

    Roll the dice, m'lady.

    She might have got Alaska wrong. So she's checking Alaska, then America.
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    From Mudflats, one of the more thorough Alaskan political blogs:

    I’ve now been able to get independent information from multiple sources that all of this precedes what are said to be possible federal indictments against Palin, concerning an embezzlement scandal related to the building of Palin’s house and the Wasilla Sports Complex built during her tenure. Both structures, it is said, feature the “same windows, same wood, same products.” Federal investigators have been looking into this for some time, and indictments could be imminent, according to the Alaska sources. [...]

    Andrea Mitchell is now being reported as claiming Palin has told some close to her that she is through with politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolt View Post
    Awesome. I wasn't aware that some Americans view the left as promoting eugenics. If anything, left = social policies, which englobe special-needs people.
    Ah, but you're forgetting. Lefties eat Christian children. It's the blood, you see. Their blood is normally yellow, from all the cowardice. They have to absorb hemoglobin and Christian children have lots of that.
    And they're delicious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    From Mudflats, one of the more thorough Alaskan political blogs:

    I’ve now been able to get independent information from multiple sources that all of this precedes what are said to be possible federal indictments against Palin, concerning an embezzlement scandal related to the building of Palin’s house and the Wasilla Sports Complex built during her tenure. Both structures, it is said, feature the “same windows, same wood, same products.” Federal investigators have been looking into this for some time, and indictments could be imminent, according to the Alaska sources. [...]

    Andrea Mitchell is now being reported as claiming Palin has told some close to her that she is through with politics.
    Oooooh, that would've been hilarious if it came up during the campaign.
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    and mother of a special-needs child
    He is not a special needs child, he is a special child .
    Really special, Hell Yeah there ain't many kids of that age that can advise people about the direction their career should take...you betcha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolt View Post
    Awesome. I wasn't aware that some Americans view the left as promoting eugenics. If anything, left = social policies, which englobe special-needs people.
    You missed the label right before your qoute - "pro-lifer". You see, some people on the right thinks that we lefties abhore people with downs syndrome and want them all aborted


    I am more intrigued at what level of ignorance is required to think that working moms are a "threat to the left".... By the bloody hells, it's what the feminist movement have been fighting for since day one!

    To miss that fact and still feel qualified to comment on politics and ideology.... well, I think this guy just revealed a whole new level of retard the world has never seen before. Keep the man out of Zimbabwe, he just might be the guy who can do a worse job than Mugabe!
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    I have such a seething hatred for that woman, that if she were to ever become president, I may just skip country for four years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    A post from Jonah Goldberg[/URL] (one of Palin's biggest initial supporters) from earlier today:
    Who needs enemies with supporters like that? I loved the special needs thingy. I feel so threatened. And I believe she looks after her husband's and her sister-in-laws special needs, too.

    Tribesman suggested that she even looks after the special needs of Jews these days. What was it her church teaches again, Tribesy? The convert-so-we-can-have-our-Messiah variety? Or the phooy-you-guys-killed-Christ variety? Or the you-guys-are-everywhere-and-secretly-controlling-us variety?
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    This ia fishy. I don't get it.
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